Border Agent's Death Would Spark Impeachment Talks, Republican Says

CNS NEWS ^ | February 07, 2007 | Kevin Mooney and Fred Lucas

[Ladycalif]

(CNSNews.com) - Weeks after accusing President Bush of "shameful" behavior over the imprisonment of two Border Patrol agents who shot an unarmed suspected drug smuggler along the U.S.-Mexico border, a federal lawmaker turned up the heat further Wednesday, suggesting the president should be impeached if either of the two men is murdered in prison.

[SerpentDove]

>>HUH? Do you have any sense of history at all? People have been arguing the "immigration threat" for time immemorial in this country.<<

9/11 changed everything.

[CORedneck]

He is like Daddy. Reneged on his "no new taxes" pledge. Time for another "President Reagan". Someone who has the cajones to say thing that need to be said, no holding back !

Bush has shattered the republican party and it's showing up more and more everyday.

[Wolfstar]

And no, I don't think he would "cover" for good ol' Duke.

I don't mean actively covering up crimes. I mean making excuses for someone who, when they were in Congress together, was Hunter's close friend. Covering as in, "I've got your back." Not as in a criminal conspiracy. In the sense I mean it, I do very much question what Hunter saw and may have ignored or excused.

As for whether or not you and others in Duke's district liked him, he kept getting elected, didn't he. And from a broader perspective, he had an excellent reputation in Republican circles in the state. I know he did up here in the district where I live.

[org.whodat]

but he has nothing to do with the problems they are in.

Dang, I do remember the term commander in chief thrown around some time or the other, and something about the buck stops here. Maybe you could explain it to me.

[nopardons]

Sabertooth did himself in. I saw it.

He and I may not have always agreed, but we WERE friends; which I'm sure will shock you no end. I told him to "cool it", when he was getting over the line, but he wouldn't listen to me.

And FWIW, he didn't do "heavy lifting"! People who do things in REAL LIFE, to help get Conservatives elected, to help get a good GOPer elected, over a damned Dem, are the ones doing the heavy lifting!

Yeah....................I'm still here and I'm not going anywhere. :-)

I am as angry as you are, about the Able Danger stuff, but please do NOT lump that in with some weird tinfoil garbage!

[ZULU]

Give it up.

Reagan was the greatest President since Teddy Roosevelt.

He won the cold war.

He created the greatest period of economic growth by cutting taxes in generations.

He tried his best to cut big government.

He stopped a Communist Cancer in Nicaragua dead in its tracks.

He DID grant an amnesty - but it was to a relatively few people and along with it went stricter laws successive administrations - especially this one - have totally ignored.


George Bush II has been an unmitigated catastrophe.

Starting out well in Afghanistan and Iraq, he allowed what should have been a purely military effort to destroy nests of terrorism in the Middle East degenerate into a politically correct effort in nation building where no REAL nation ever really existed.

He has ignored the looming threat from Iran and Syria while they continue to pump men, material and instructions to "insurgents" in Iraq.

He has turned a deaf ear to the communist threat in Venezuela and Bolivia.

He has made a mockery of defending our borders against a growing army of invaders.

He has termed outraged Americans who have tried to stop it "vigilantes".

He has thrown into a pit of beasts two men who were doing their best to protect us from these criminal invaders.

He has appointed or tried to appoint TOTALLY unqualified family hacks to offices of essential importance - Alberto Gonzales, Harriet Miers, the former head of FEMA. etc.

He signed into law a blatantly unconstitutional piece of legislation - McCain-Feingold.

He is conspiring with the Democrats to betray the majority of Americans who DON'T want amnesty for illegal aliens.

He has turned Republican conservatives against each other by his schizophrenic policies.

If a Democrat like Nancy Pelosi was in office, she couldn't have damaged the Republican Party as much as this transplanted northeastern liberal with the phony Texas accent has. By his ineptitude in waging ANOTHER political war, instead of letting the military do the fighting, he is reenacting Viet Nam and letting loose the Jane Fondas, Susan Sarandons, etc upon the American public.

I detest the Bushes. The Father was bad and his son has exceeded the father in ineptitude.

Mark my words - the next two years will see an even MORE liberal George Bush II working with the Democrat majority to reenact the flawed policies of his father and the Republican RINO minority. It will get worse and worse.

And if Giuliani, McCain or Romney get nominated, men to the LEFT of the current President, the Republican Party is KAPUT - FINISHED - FINITO!!

[CAluvdubya]

If Rorabacher has joined in on this stupidity, then as a California voter I will have come to the conclusion that people I once had considerable respect for are throwing away their careers by playing to the worst aspects of the Republican/conservative fringe.

Doesn't it make you wonder why they have taken such a hard line on this? These two are very politically savvy. They know that this stance is dangerous for them. I don't see them taking that kind of chance just for a headline.

[Wolfstar]

And if false evidence or information was entered into the trial...

What part of "the defendants have benefit of defense counsel" do you not understand? If there is any truth to what you suggest, and if their defense attorneys are competent, then they have an excellent shot of having an appeal upheld.

The problem with people agitating for them to be pardoned (thereby aiding those who hate GWB), is that, if all they allege is true, then the men don't need a pardon. They should easily prevail on appeal. Instead, the hysteria and constant anti-GWB flogging of this case suggests to me that this is a phony cause and the men deserved to be convicted.

[Wallace T.]

Why is the Justice Department stonewalling on the trial transcripts? There are too many questions with respect to jury intimidation, false statements by the prosecution, the absence of ballistic evidence tying the officer's firearm to the wound received by the fleeing drug smuggler, and the possibly poor legal counsel the Border Patrol agents received (their attorney told them not to seek publicity even after conviction, a poor strategy in light of the success of the Duke lacrosse players' success in a highly charged, political trial).

The transcripts need to be released in an unsanitized version.

[Wolfstar]

Something about checks written in the HOR... it was here on FR a week or so ago.

Thanks for telling me.

[calcowgirl]

I've seen a lot of Poe. He seems like a real stand-up guy.
Way more common sense than the average Congress-critter, lol.

[investigateworld]

I just checked, and nopardons is correct, the threads have been deleted from FR. You can still find them via Google:"Bbottoms Free Republic".

[pissant]

I've been following this, and the sensationalistic bullshit so many have been spouting. Give me the facts maam, and tell me where Tony lied.

[A Citizen Reporter]

It may have changed a lot of things, but it didn't change "history". Which is what your post addressed.

The Patsy Buchananites have been trying to making the anti-immigration argument, far before 9-11.

But the argument goes a lot farther back in the country's history. I always find it particularly amusing. Because, ignorant of it or not, without immigration, none of you would be here to make any argument at all.

But that always passes way above your heads. LOL

[editor-surveyor]

The fallout from this will destroy the republican hopes for the 2008 election. Bush is doing this deliberately; he knew what kind of man Gonzales was when he appointed him.

[mickie]

I just went to the White House web site and sent an email to Bush asking him to pardon Ramos and Compean, to let them return to their loved ones.

Please, all who think like we do, make your voice heard.

[nopardons]

I avidly read all of the Mena threads, long ago and most of the stuff was tinfoil. The Clintons and the Bush family were never in a drug cartel together. And to bring that up, on this thread, is veering off into the delusional world of tinfoil.

There is absolutely no proof, whatsoever, that the president is responsible for not only making sure that these border agents were found guilty and jailed, but also that he ordered the inmates to attack one of them.

[ovrtaxt]

The whole premise of the case is a load of crap from the beginning though. I don't care if they prevail on appeal or not, that's just icing on the cake after the fact. They deserve a pardon, and that prosecutor who went to Mexico looking for this pindejo druggie should be disbarred.

[pissant]

My thoughts exactly.

[april15Bendovr]

Thats not what I am hearing. The judge is asking questions on why certain evidence from the government was not presented. The so called drug dealer victim ran after being shot. The man shows up with wounds inconsistent with the ammunition fired at him.