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Rudy on gun control: "You've got to REGULATE consistent with the Second Amendment"
FOX News ^ | Feb 6, 2007 | Hanity and Colmes

Posted on 02/07/2007 2:40:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson

HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?

GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...

HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?

GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.

So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.

HANNITY: So you would support the state's rights to choose on specific gun laws?

GIULIANI: Yes, I mean, a place like New York that is densely populated, or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem, like a few cities are now, kind of coming back, thank goodness not New York, but some other cities, maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules.

HANNITY: But generally speaking, do you think it's acceptable if citizens have the right to carry a handgun?

GIULIANI: It's not only -- I mean, it's part of the Constitution. People have the right to bear arms. Then the restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible. You can't just remove that right. You've got to regulate, consistent with the Second Amendment.

HANNITY: How do you feel about the Brady bill and assault ban?

GIULIANI: I was in favor of that as part of the crime bill. I was in favor of it because I thought that it was necessary both to get the crime bill passed and also necessary with the 2,000 murders or so that we were looking at, 1,800, 1,900, to 2,000 murders, that I could use that in a tactical way to reduce crime. And I did.


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To: Eric in the Ozarks

"I own several rifles, nine shotguns and many pistols. Which of these do you plan to allow me to keep ?"

Which one do you plan on going into the street with to commit a crime?


981 posted on 02/08/2007 6:03:21 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: streetpreacher

LOL! I wouldn't be on it, that's for sure.


982 posted on 02/08/2007 6:03:33 AM PST by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops!!)
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To: mariabush

i correction I


983 posted on 02/08/2007 6:03:56 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: dirtboy
I guess you have to get robbed first.

Nope that won't do it. Remember Bernard Goetz? He applied for a permit after bing robbed and was turned down. The way to show need in Guiliani's NYC is to be a celebrity. Celebrities have no trouble getting permits in NYC.

984 posted on 02/08/2007 6:04:15 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: LiveFree99
A large part of his support here seems to derive not from conservative beliefs and rational arguments, but from a cult of personality following.

Is Free Republic large enough to accommodate Rudy's cult of personality as well as Dubya's?

985 posted on 02/08/2007 6:05:41 AM PST by Wormwood (Your Friendly Neighborhood Moderate)
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To: from occupied ga; dirtboy; Eaker; humblegunner

Georgia, I never thought of it that way. Good point. And having to be the victim of a crime to demonstrate need to have a weapon is stoopid. What if you don't 'make it' through the criminal act due to being unarmed?


986 posted on 02/08/2007 6:06:28 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: from occupied ga
The way to show need in Guiliani's NYC is to be a celebrity. Celebrities have no trouble getting permits in NYC.

How to be a celebrity in NYC.

Sleep with Donald Trump and Rosie O' Donnell......at the same time?

Just asking. LOL.

987 posted on 02/08/2007 6:07:18 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: from occupied ga
(Though actually I don't see a whole lot of difference between the two on issues)

There isn't one difference between Guiliani and Hillery. They are identical on all positions, even after Hillery makes all of her changes.
988 posted on 02/08/2007 6:08:59 AM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Liz
Sleep with Donald Trump and Rosie O' Donnell......at the same time?

What a nightmarish thought!!

989 posted on 02/08/2007 6:09:05 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Liz
Sleep with Donald Trump and Rosie O' Donnell......at the same time?

That kind of post should only be made between the hours of midnight and 5AM. Ungh.... ;^)

990 posted on 02/08/2007 6:10:19 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: from occupied ga

I've already been through that shakedown - rather thoroughly too. They've said "Won't you cast a vote for the lesser of evil? it's for the good.." - as if I'm too blind to know the net difference is none. I've spent time on my knees to determine what's right for me, and this is my resolution.

My conscience tells me NO for abortion and anyone who supports it; NO for SSM and those who condone it and want to place it at par with marriage and I believe both stances I've taken to be Biblically principled positions and that leads me to a NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE declaration with regard to RinoRudy. To cast a vote for JulieAnnie is to go directly against those I hold as Christian convictions and I'm a firm believer the Almighty has placed it within the hearts of mankind to know right from wrong and to let us decide whether we stand firm on His principle AND his ability to lead us in righteousness or do we curl up with a whimper and abandon our beliefs simply for a perception of "winning".

For principles' sake, I will trust the Almighty's promises to guide the obedient over that of politics, any day.


991 posted on 02/08/2007 6:10:27 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Which one do you plan on going into the street with to commit a crime?

None. But Rudy and his gun grabbing friends want to take two of my rifles, three of my handguns, and possibly one of my shotguns as well. I also wouldn't be able to buy the next bolt action rifle I was looking at as it's chambered for the uber-scary .50BMG.

Heck, Kennedy even tried to get my .30-30 banned as 99% or your typical rifle rounds can easily defeat Class IIa body armor.

There can be no "reasonable restrictions" on an unalienable Right.

992 posted on 02/08/2007 6:10:34 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: loboinok
Well to be fair, I don't think Rudy is in favor of confiscatory tax levels, but after that, I'm with you.
993 posted on 02/08/2007 6:11:02 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Reagan Man
On Reagan and gun control. Reagan signed the Mulford Act in a dumb attempt to stop the radical group, the Black Panthers from carrying weapons. Later in 1994, Reagan was contacted about supporting the Brady Bill by Jim and Sara Brady themselves. Some Reaganites said Ronnie wasn't in the best frame of mind at that time. Others have said that Reagan was simply standing with his good friend who was shot in the head and almost killed in the 1981 assasination attempt on Reagan life by John Hinckley. I'm not making excuses for Reagan, but I'm willing to give him a pass on his support for the Brady Bill. Jim Brady was his good friend.

As POTUS, Ronald Reagan didn't support any assault weapons ban, nor did he ever infringe on the 2nd amendment right of Americans to keep and bear arms. Reagan did sign one bill outlawing "cop-killer" bullets. Reagan also signed the Firearms and Owners Protection Act of 1986. The FOPA was supported by the gun rights advocates.

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Thanks for posting the above. I suspected it was something of the kind, but did wonder after all of the posts (I think mostly by one person, if I recall correctly) that cast it in a different light.

994 posted on 02/08/2007 6:11:17 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dirtboy


Gotcha----will try to remember. LOL.


995 posted on 02/08/2007 6:12:25 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Jim Robinson

If this POS is the nominate, I WILL vote 3rd party.


996 posted on 02/08/2007 6:12:38 AM PST by stevio (Next election between a Newt and a Witch?(NRA))
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To: azhenfud
NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE declaration with regard to RinoRudy

I agree. If it's down to rinorudy or marxisthillary I'm voting libertarian.

997 posted on 02/08/2007 6:13:10 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: LiveFree99
A large part of his support here seems to derive not from conservative beliefs and rational arguments, but from a cult of personality following. Disturbing.

Indeed. I think what you have is people who place "winning" above all else, and so they've chosen who they believe to be the most electable candidate and will support him no matter his beliefs. However, implicit in that action is the feeling that conservative beliefs are not electable on their own. I question whether these folks have really thought hard about why conservatism works, or whether they just made conservative-sounding statements when it happens to suit "their guy".

998 posted on 02/08/2007 6:13:23 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
But have fun trashing GOP Presidential candidates who merely upheld the laws written and/or co-sponsored by those in Congress.

That dog won't hunt, fella. Rudy Giuliani's disgraceful track record with regard to upholding the provisions of the 1996 Federal immigration reform act that specifically prohibited the establishment of "sanctuary city" policies makes this a particularly lame -- and pathetic -- defense of his views on gun control when he was mayor of New York City.

999 posted on 02/08/2007 6:13:37 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: stevio

Isn't that why we are discussing it now? So it doesn't come to that? Say "no" to the RINO's now, while the option isn't so dire.


1,000 posted on 02/08/2007 6:13:57 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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