Posted on 02/07/2007 5:48:59 AM PST by Mike Bates
What many conservatives regard as the nightmare scenario -- President Hillary Rodham Clinton -- is increasingly seen by veteran Republican politicians and strategists as a virtual inevitability.
In GOP circles, the Democratic front-runner is seen as so strong, and the political climate for Republicans so hostile, that many influential voices -- including current and former lawmakers, and veterans of President Bush's campaigns -- have grown despairing. These partisans describe a political equivalent of the stages of grief, starting with denial, then resentment and ending with acceptance.
For now, these Republicans say the party needs good luck, including a change of fortune in Iraq, and a revival of organization and leadership in the conservative movement to avert another Clinton presidency.
"If the conservative movement and Republicans don't understand how massive the Clinton coalition is, she will be the next president," former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said in an interview last week, after giving a private talk to GOP lawmakers. Clinton will win, he added, "if we don't use everything available to us and motivate our base, the people that believe in us."
In his closed-door comments to conservative House members, DeLay warned of the wealth and political potency of the Clinton fundraising network.
"We do have to get our act together, and I'd agree with Tom DeLay on that," said Rep. Steve King of Iowa. "At this point, short an inspirational Republican nominee, then I would agree that it's going to be very difficult to beat Hillary if she wins the nomination."
Those comments echoed those by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich last month on Fox News:
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* have = half
**And how exactly do you motivate a base that you've ignored and abandoned? Hmmmmm? **
Exactly.
Did I say that??? No.
**When she says she wants to confiscate profits, I don't think she's lying. She does.**
I agree.
When she made the statement "We are going to take things away from you for the common good", that's EXACTLY how I interpreted it.
Including the quotes from DeLay, Newt, etc.?
Seems to me that the bottom line is that there may be more "Liberal Democrats" willing to hold their noses and vote for Clinton than there are "Conservative Republicans" willing to hold their nose and vote for any of the likely Republican nominees. (Unlikely as it may seem to some here, many "Liberal Democrats' consider Clinton to be too "conservative" for their taste).
Yesterday's "it's the economy, stupid" has morphed into today's "it's the Iraq war, stupid". She'll be rubbing this in the face of whoever opposes her on the right.
A stack of cream-pies will adorn her podium (?). We have to nominate a good 'ducker-and-diver". (Shucker and Jiver?, Tucker and Shriver?, McCain and McGuiver?:^)
You are forgetting the Gore effect. This cold wave up here in the blue state of WI is playing havoc with infrastructure and raising everyone's heat/electric bills. We are being told to limit electricity in the evening/overnight.
The reported temperatures are another 10-15 degrees lower in reality out here in the boonies. We have had 25-30 degrees below zero while the weather channel tells us it is -10.
I wonder if they can keep the hype on global warming going enough to get Al in. We aren't forcast to even get above freezing in the next 10 days. Let everyone think hard about which temperature extreme is the worst to live with.
I'm with you. I'm basing my opinion on the amount of anti-Hillary jokes, etc. I'm getting in my mailbox and it's a lot.
This woman is not likeable and I think she scares the daylights out of people. I want her for the nominee.
Yes, but it was on "new" information.
Everything on Hillary is "old" information. The MSM will assure everybody knows it and that it has been "discredited" years ago.
There will be no swiftboating for Hillary. People know all about her and Bill and don't care.
Women will vote for her in droves simply because she is a woman. Liberals will vote for her because she is a Liberal. Moderates will vote for her because it is Politically Correct and the Clinton War Room has turned her opponent into a monster or a Foley. Illegals and the stupid will vote for her because she will give them "free" health care. The dead will vote for her because they are all Democrats.
There is no silver bullet here, I'm afraid.
The proper way to defeat Hillary is for the Republican to run as the "change" candidate.
Hillary will certainly claim trhis position for herself. However, it could very easily be nuetralized with the position that "20 years of Clinton/Bush is to much all ready. It is time for a change!"
The change card will win the White House. The victor will be the one who plays it most convincingly.
"Duncan Hunter is a good man,"
Yes, he is. That is why I would like to see a Thompson/Hunter ticket, and I'll explain why...
Both are good conservatives that wont turn off half the base by being far left on social issues.
Fred Thompson is more well known and would assure that they got both the cash and media coverage.
Neither one of them have tons of baggage that would come back to bite them.
Both are sharp on the issues and few, if any, can match Thompson as a speaker.
Hunter's position on borders and trade will appeal to blue swing state voters in the rust belt. ( Mi,Pa, Ohio )
Hold Ohio, and flip Michigan and Penn. WITHOUT losing a single red state on the social issues.
The RATS can't beat that ticket!
Leftists lie.
Wouldn't that be an excellent debate?
Hillary has never permitted herself to be questioned. She has made it through an assault on national health care and two senate campiagns this way. But can not get through a run for president without answering questions.
Her voice is unbearably repulsive. It has to make even her most loyal supporter's skin crawl with revuslion. No way no way I'll say it again no way would even Democrats sign up for four years of that voice. No way.
If she does win the White House it will be due to manueverings at the top levels of world power- not by the wishes of the American voter.
Honestly- isn't 20 years of Clinton/Bush enough? The instant that Poppy Bush checked his watch during the town hall debate with Willy Clinturd, I suspected a collusion between the two. -"Slick gets this one if my boy gets the next two." Nothing else makes since.
What did he say and when did he say it?
Goes along with my posts...
Newt is everything Hillary is not.. meaning Gramskian socialist..
Everyone who is NOT a socialist would VOTE for him..
That means other than ALL democrats and ALL RINOS..
Those two groups HATE Newt Gingrich...
Ugh Oh! theres the rub.. America is going socialist..
Tancredo or Hunter
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