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HPV Vaccine Mandates Risky and Expensive (Vaccine Safety Group Finds Serious Reactions, High Costs)
PR Newswire ^ | Feb 1, 2007 | Unknown

Posted on 02/06/2007 8:58:03 PM PST by Marie

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since the CDC's July 2006 universal use recommendation for all young girls, NVIC found reports of loss of consciousness, seizures, joint pain and Guillain-Barre Syndrome. In a separate evaluation of costs for young girls being vaccinated in private pediatrician offices, NVIC discovered that parents living in the Washington, D.C. area will be paying between $500 and $900 to have their daughters receive three doses of GARDASIL.

"GARDASIL safety appears to have been studied in fewer than 2,000 girls aged 9 to 15 years pre-licensure clinical trials and it is unclear how long they were followed up. VAERS is now receiving reports of loss of consciousness, seizures, arthritis and other neurological problems in young girls who have received the shot," said NVIC President Barbara Loe Fisher. "At the same time, parents who take their daughters to private pediatricians are going to be shocked to find that they will be paying two to three times the widely publicized $360 cost for the three-dose series. The cost is going to break the pocketbooks of parents and break the banks of both insurance companies and taxpayers, when the reality is that almost all cases of HPV- associated cervical cancer can be prevented with annual pap screening of girls who are sexually active."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: captaingardasil; gardasil; hpv; hpvvaccine; merck; rickperry; texas
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To: Alter Kaker

Was this vaccine on eleven year old girls?


61 posted on 02/07/2007 7:14:31 AM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: Alter Kaker

I meant;


Was this vaccine tested on eleven year old girls?


62 posted on 02/07/2007 7:16:30 AM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: perseid 67
I meant; Was this vaccine tested on eleven year old girls?

I'm not sure -- check the study documents. I do know that the FDA has approved Gardasil for use in women between the ages of 9 and 26.

63 posted on 02/07/2007 7:23:13 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

The press releases are using the term women not girls.

What is happening in Texas is an unethical science experiment.

I hope it is stopped.


64 posted on 02/07/2007 7:38:54 AM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: perseid 67
The press releases are using the term women not girls.

How about "females." Are your issues strictly etymological?

What is happening in Texas is an unethical science experiment.

Not true.

65 posted on 02/07/2007 7:57:57 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: ConservaTexan
Further testing is good - there are ongoing trials. I'd take anything from the NVIC with a very large grain of salt. They're still pushing the autism/mmr link. The scientific evidence didn't support it, and the recent study from Japan has pretty much put that one to rest. From the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia newsletter: '"Not only is there no evidence that it causes autism, there's evidence that it doesn't cause autism," Dr. Offit says." In fact, there have been 14 studies that show your risk of getting autism isn't any different if you got the MMR vaccine or if you didn't." '

The NVIC appears to confuse association with causation. The VAERS system if very clear that it collects every report, without distinguishing the two. The data is then further analyzed by the CDC. I'll believe the CDC over the NVIC.

This is not to say I believe Merck on everything - I don't, and have my beefs with the pharmaceutical industry. But to equate Vioxx and Gardasil is a little silly. Are you advising people to stop taking Singulair or Zocor because they are Merck products?

66 posted on 02/07/2007 8:08:32 AM PST by retMD
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To: Alter Kaker

I tend not to believe numbers when they are rounded up to the greater number.


67 posted on 02/07/2007 8:10:20 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Madeline Albright ZaPeezda, no doubt about it!)
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To: NonValueAdded

. The claim of vaccine-related Guillain-Barre Syndrome certainly has my attention. Good grief, that's why aspirin is no longer used for children but OK for adults.

When it comes to aspirin, I believe you're thinking of Reye's syndrome, not Guillain-Barre. Or do you have a link to some newer information?

68 posted on 02/07/2007 8:13:52 AM PST by retMD
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To: MadelineZapeezda
I tend not to believe numbers when they are rounded up to the greater number.

I don't think that's the issue. I think you believe that only sluts get HPV, and you're going to stick to that sincere, heartfelt belief no matter what the evidence to the contrary. Meanwhile, I'd be willing to bet (not knowing you, but knowing the statistics) that you yourself have been infected with HPV at least once in your life.

69 posted on 02/07/2007 8:15:23 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

Is it true that a wart on your hand or foot is HPV? That's what I've read in the last year. If regular warts are examples of HPV, then my five-year-old has been infected with HPV. Is she going to contract cervical cancer as a result?


70 posted on 02/07/2007 8:18:02 AM PST by petitfour
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To: petitfour
That's what I've read in the last year. If regular warts are examples of HPV, then my five-year-old has been infected with HPV. Is she going to contract cervical cancer as a result?

It may well be HPV (which is generally responsible for persistent skin warts), but the strains responsible for warts are not generally the strains that cause cervical cancer so your daughter should be fine. Of course a word of caution: I'm not a medical doctor nor do I play one on tv.

71 posted on 02/07/2007 8:25:23 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
Well, next time drug companies try back door approaches to market , badly tested, injections to young girls they will use age non specific terms such female. For now I am equating woman with over the age of eighteen. Certainly women would never be used to describe eleven year old girls.

By making Texas parents jump through hoops so their daughters will not be injected with a vaccine from Merck, a company which had its butt sued off , Merck has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, it's unethical. Perry is a disappointment.
72 posted on 02/07/2007 8:31:18 AM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: Alter Kaker
From the article: Most HPV infections have no signs or symptoms; therefore, most infected persons are unaware they are infected,

But the CDC knows?!

73 posted on 02/07/2007 8:37:09 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
But the CDC knows?!

Yes! There are tests for HPV infection.

74 posted on 02/07/2007 8:40:15 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
Yes! There are tests for HPV infection.

Excuse me. Read again what they say.

Most HPV infections have no signs or symptoms; therefore, most infected persons are unaware they are infected,

And then they claim 80% of women have had the virus by age 50? And most have no symptoms? That's not statistics. That's "guesstimates".

75 posted on 02/07/2007 8:45:23 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: NonValueAdded
The claim of vaccine-related Guillain-Barre Syndrome certainly has my attention. Good grief, that's why aspirin is no longer used for children but OK for adults.

Incorrect. That would be *Reyes* syndrome, not G-B.
76 posted on 02/07/2007 8:45:34 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: MEGoody
It's interesting that those who support abortion on demand also play the 'rape' card to support their views.

I'm going to guess that you're not trying and draw a corollary between using rape to justify aboriton and pointing out that rape - as well as marital intercourse with an infected yet asymptomatic individual - are two ways in which someone can end up with HPV without being "a slut". Becuase if you were trying to draw that corollary, it would be too silly a line of argument to pursue.
77 posted on 02/07/2007 8:47:42 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: originalbuckeye
There are male virgins, too.

Indeed. I presume that you've invented that virgin detector that kc so far has been unable to produce?
78 posted on 02/07/2007 8:48:45 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: DJ MacWoW
And then they claim 80% of women have had the virus by age 50? And most have no symptoms? That's not statistics. That's "guesstimates".

No, it's not a "guesstimate," it's an approximation informed by random-sample testing of the general population. Just because HPV has no symptoms doesn't mean it can't be detected by an HPV test.

79 posted on 02/07/2007 8:54:08 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Old_Mil
Incorrect. That would be *Reyes* syndrome, not G-B.

My mistake. But after reading this description, my concern is even more on point.

What is Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS)?

Guillain-Barré (Ghee-yan Bah-ray) Syndrome, also called acute inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy and Landry's ascending paralysis, is an inflammatory disorder of the peripheral nerves those outside the brain and spinal cord. It is characterized by the rapid onset of weakness and, often, paralysis of the legs, arms, breathing muscles and face. GBS is the most common cause of rapidly acquired paralysis in the United States today, affecting one to two people in every 100,000.

The disorder came to public attention briefly when it struck a number of people who received the 1976 Swine Flu vaccine. It continues to claim thousands of new victims each year, striking any person, at any age, regardless of gender or ethnic background.

It typically begins with weakness and/or abnormal sensations of the legs and arms. It can also affect muscles of the chest, face and eyes. Although many cases are mild, some patients are virtually paralyzed. Breathing muscles may be so weakened that a machine is required to keep the patient alive. Many patients require an intensive care unit during the early course of their illness, especially if support of breathing with a machine is required. Although most people recover, the length of the illness is unpredictable and often months of hospital care are required. The majority of patients eventually return to a normal or near normal lifestyle, but many endure a protracted recovery and some remain wheelchair-bound indefinitely.

Yes, it is a matter of balancing risks, but I want to be the one making the decision for my little one, certainly not, in my locale, Gov. Crist.
80 posted on 02/07/2007 9:00:19 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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