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James Lileks: Don't Underestimate Giuliani (And Newt still can't win!)
The Newhouse News Service ^ | February 6, 2007 | James Lileks

Posted on 02/06/2007 6:08:59 PM PST by quidnunc

Rudy Giuliani is in. Suggested campaign slogan: "He dealt with Brooklyn. He can handle Baghdad.'' He's not a sure thing; he has enough baggage to fill the cargo hold of a cruise ship. His sundry personal-life issues bother social conservatives; the gun control stance dismays the Second Amendment wing of the party; the pro-choice opinions alarm the evangelicals. That leaves about 47 Republicans, right? After all, it's just a party of cousin-marrying yahoos who'd sooner shoot up Planned Parenthood than vote for one of those fish-on-Friday types. Right?

No. Voters are more flexible and forgiving than you might expect. And none of the objections obscure the central appeal of the Rudy candidacy: He'll nuke 'em if he has to. That won't be the central theme of his campaign, of course, but it's the unstated strength of his candidacy. He's not a wuss. Look at the rest of the field:

Mitt Romney. He's a heavy fave, but the M-word makes his support in the evangelical community unsure. Many will vote for him, since he's an all-around moral guy, and no one wants a public debate over doctrinal differences. Other evangelicals regard his faith as something between David Koresh and Scientology, and would rather vote for Joe Lieberman. (Him you could convert!) Romney has an abortion flip-flop to confront, which softens his support as well. He's a solid candidate thus far because he's, well, solid: He appears hewn from the Presidential Quarry.

On the other hand, he could be a genial cyborg from an invading race. Wouldn't exactly surprise anyone.

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(Excerpt) Read more at newhouse.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
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To: onyx

LOL, nope. Posting facts and quotes about liberals is a good thing. Oh yeah, trying to tell others how to act is the kind of jack-booted thuggery that Rino Rudy promotes. It is a liberal mentality. It is not a pretty thing.


121 posted on 02/06/2007 7:51:08 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: onyx

Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.


122 posted on 02/06/2007 7:51:34 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: quidnunc
Voters are more flexible and forgiving than you might expect.

Well, I don't know if I'm flexible or forgiving, but I'm not an idiot, and if it comes down to Rudy or Hilary...

And none of the objections obscure the central appeal of the Rudy candidacy: He'll nuke 'em if he has to.

And there you have it. Frankly, it SHOULD be his motto. Heck, I'd buy that bumper sticker:

RUDY: HE'LL NUKE 'EM IF HE HAS TO!

Yeah, I like it.

123 posted on 02/06/2007 7:51:40 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: PhiKapMom

I don't know .. you will have to ask them


124 posted on 02/06/2007 7:51:49 PM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: PhiKapMom
I've heard him SAY that, repeated, all over FNC shows and it REALLY turned me off! He also kept talking about being "BIPARTISAN".

NO THANKS; NOT AT THIS JUNCTURE !


125 posted on 02/06/2007 7:51:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: PhiKapMom

LOL, wrong.


126 posted on 02/06/2007 7:52:13 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: narses


Hit abuse on me, flame war inciting SPAMMER.

I am sick to death of you SPAMMING every thread.



127 posted on 02/06/2007 7:53:14 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: onyx

Wow. The truth bugs you that much. Truth is a good thing. You should embrace the truth.


128 posted on 02/06/2007 7:54:16 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Howlin
It looks like a few dollars were bet today on Rudy being the nominee...Ladrokes from the UK, one of the biggest bookies in the world, shortened his odds a point from 5/1 to 4/1 and let McCain drift a little...smaller online bookies will typically lay-off their liabilities with an old-time 'real bookmakers' like Ladbrokes...

Republican Candidates odds...

I personally don't think Rudy will be our Candidate...that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

129 posted on 02/06/2007 7:54:42 PM PST by Geronimo
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To: quidnunc
"Giuliani probably has the best chance of beating Hillary of all GOP candidates,..."

I disagree with that very much.

Vanity: And now for the rest of the question: Has conservatism been defeated in America?

Posted on 02/04/2007 3:01:09 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Toward a 21st Century Contract with America
Newt.org ^ | February 1, 2007 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 02/04/2007 10:33:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson
130 posted on 02/06/2007 7:54:51 PM PST by familyop ("G-d is on our side because he hates the Yanks." --St. Tuco, in the "Good, the Bad, and the Ugly")
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To: narses

You have irriated the crap out of about 90 percent of this forum with you relentless spamming.

For all I know, most of the people supporting Rudy are doing it just because of you.


131 posted on 02/06/2007 7:55:44 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: narses

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you right smack in your face.

You SPAM stuff from last century.

You are truly pathetic.

Filled with hate and yet you call yourself a Catholic.

Get lost.


132 posted on 02/06/2007 7:56:23 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: Howlin

Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.


133 posted on 02/06/2007 7:56:29 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: hosepipe
All of this nonsense about Rudy being the only Republican who can beat Hillary is just a thinly veiled attempt by the checkered pants Republicans to move the party to the left.

Newt will beat Hillary and re-energize the conservative movement.

134 posted on 02/06/2007 7:56:53 PM PST by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: narses

You are an insane lunatic


135 posted on 02/06/2007 7:56:56 PM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: familyop

Ouch. The Rudybots hate stuff like that.


136 posted on 02/06/2007 7:57:22 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Geronimo

Now you have been here long enough to know I do NOT understand anything at all about finances!

Give me the Cliff Notes.


137 posted on 02/06/2007 7:57:33 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Mo1


At a minimum.


138 posted on 02/06/2007 7:57:35 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: Mo1

Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.


139 posted on 02/06/2007 7:57:40 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: narses

NO SPAM!

The above is posted to FR's front page; but you know that, but do it anyway.

140 posted on 02/06/2007 7:57:46 PM PST by nopardons
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