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Firearms Industry Warns: Giuliani No Friend to Gun Owners
National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) ^ | February 6, 2007 | Ted Novin

Posted on 02/06/2007 12:08:48 PM PST by 300magnum

NEWTOWN, Conn.—In response to New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's filing of a statement of candidacy with the Federal Election Commission yesterday, indicating that he would enter the 2008 presidential race as a Republican, the firearms industry's trade association, the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), reminded America's sportsmen and gun-enthusiasts of the former mayor's record of hostility toward firearms and gun-owners.

"Recent remarks indicate the mayor is attempting to camouflage his record on guns – a political maneuver now common for politicians seeking national office," said Lawrence G. Keane, NSSF senior vice president and general counsel.

In June of 2000, then New York City Mayor Giuliani became the lone Republican mayor to sue members of the firearms industry as part of a wave of lawsuits that began in the late 1990's by major metropolitan cities like Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, Washington, DC, Philadelphia and San Francisco that sought to hold firearms manufactures responsible for the criminal misuse of firearms. The Giuliani lawsuit is still pending and being aggressively pursued by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

Giuliani strongly opposed legislation blocking suits like the one he filed against members of the firearms industry. In 2005, President Bush signed legislation into law that barred such lawsuits after Congress, by a broad bipartisan margin, passed the bill. During the debate in Congress the Giuliani lawsuit was specifically referred to as an example of the kind of "junk" lawsuit the law is intended to stop.

"Giuliani's lawsuit may have gained him praise in Gotham, but will surely handicap him in the rest of the country, particularly during the southern primaries," predicted Keane.

More recently Giuliani's campaign has flipped-flopped on whether he continues his longstanding support for restoring the Clinton-era federal ban on some semi-automatic rifles based on cosmetic appearance. The so-called "assault weapons" ban sunset in 2004. Several studies including those by the Department of Justice and the Centers for Disease Control showed the ban had no impact on crime largely because the banned firearms were very rarely if ever used in crime. The ban had nothing to do with machine guns, which have remained heavily regulated since the early part of the last century.

According to the New York Post, Giuliani's political operative in New Hampshire, Wayne Semprini, "has been telling voters that the mayor will be an 'easy sell' - and that the ex-mayor 'satisfied' him that he won't support federal assault-weapons bans, as he has in the past." All the while Anthony Carbonetti, Giuliani's top advisor, has been telling New Yorkers "the mayor's position on this [the assault weapons ban] has not changed."

Commenting on this equivocation, Keane added, "You can't pretend to be a supporter of sportsmen and gun-owners in New Hampshire when you tried to sue the firearms industry out of existence in New York. Other politicians learned the hard way that sportsmen and gun-owners are a well-informed and highly motivated voting bloc. Former President Clinton in his memoirs admitted the gun issue cost Al Gore the White House, and Senator Kerry's ill-fated goose hunt cooked his presidential aspirations in 2004."

Formed in 1961, the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) is the trade association for the firearms industry. For more information, visit www.nssf.org.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; giuliani2008; guncontrol; retardsforrudy
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To: Afronaut

"Abortion
Borders
Guns
Gay Unions"

If we were to throw out all the social issues that hold the party together we would be nothing more than another libertarian party.


241 posted on 02/06/2007 3:57:48 PM PST by Beagle8U (SNICKERS......Its packed with fudge !)
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To: glock rocks

242 posted on 02/06/2007 4:00:22 PM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: B4Ranch

Someone should send all those cards to the Hunter campaign.


243 posted on 02/06/2007 4:03:15 PM PST by Beagle8U (SNICKERS......Its packed with fudge !)
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To: Beagle8U

check your freep mail in a minute.


244 posted on 02/06/2007 4:06:54 PM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: Towed_Jumper
"Either way come Jan08, Rudy or the Hillary-beast will be telling us all to turn in our guns."

Nah, it will take them 6 months of pontificating to pass the "Fluffy bunny rabbit, protect the children and women, gun confiscation, chicken in every pot" bill.

245 posted on 02/06/2007 4:08:05 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Chena

"The term RINO is used and abused far too often, in my honest opinion."

But it perfect describes Rudy.

It doesn't matter what you want to call yourself. But if your chosen candidate supports such liberal positions as massive gun control, illegal immigration, CFR, partial birth abortion, etc etc etc, then why even bother calling yourself a conservative, or denying that you're a liberal? Because the person you want to put into office for 4 years certainly is a liberal with those stances.


246 posted on 02/06/2007 4:09:09 PM PST by flashbunny (<---------- Hate RINOs? Click my name for 2008 GOP RINO collector cards.)
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To: Antoninus

Anyone can add these threads to the "BANGLIST" by entering "BANGLIST" as a new keyword just below the main body of the first post.


247 posted on 02/06/2007 4:13:38 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Dominic Harr
I don't know, if this is his only weakness, he can easily cut off worries by making a strong promise not to grab guns.

He could.

He was offered the opportunity on national TV

He didn't

As you note this will be an easy one for him for non gunowners and the uninformed.

248 posted on 02/06/2007 4:16:05 PM PST by SJackson (Let a thousand flowers bloom and let all our rifles be aimed at the occupation, Abu Mazen 1/11/07)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you'd like to be on or off this outdoors list, mostly rural issues, please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Perhaps a little off topic, but not that far off.

249 posted on 02/06/2007 4:18:48 PM PST by SJackson (Let a thousand flowers bloom and let all our rifles be aimed at the occupation, Abu Mazen 1/11/07)
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To: California Patriot
The Rat candidates are, I'd bet, to the left of him on EVERY issue. And again, they would do more about it.

Name me one running in Republican primaries.

250 posted on 02/06/2007 4:19:40 PM PST by SJackson (Let a thousand flowers bloom and let all our rifles be aimed at the occupation, Abu Mazen 1/11/07)
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To: SJackson

Not far off at all. Thanks for the ping.


251 posted on 02/06/2007 4:19:59 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: blackie
Suing gun manufacturers for gun deaths is like suing the car industry for hit-and-run driving deaths.

Call John Edwards, you might get a finders fee.

252 posted on 02/06/2007 4:20:18 PM PST by SJackson (Let a thousand flowers bloom and let all our rifles be aimed at the occupation, Abu Mazen 1/11/07)
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To: xzins
How can a candidate jettison his past positions on issues so that he can be trusted if he adopts a new position? I don't have an answer to that.

Anyone's positions can evolve. And they can change when representing a different constituency. Note post 151. On this issue, I believe Rudy embraces his former position.

253 posted on 02/06/2007 4:22:38 PM PST by SJackson (Let a thousand flowers bloom and let all our rifles be aimed at the occupation, Abu Mazen 1/11/07)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
One of my favorites:

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
-- Sigmund Freud, A General Introduction to Psychoanalysis

254 posted on 02/06/2007 4:22:51 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: AnnaZ
Had I known that the Republicans' 2A plank had become so watered down in 2004, I never would have supported the GOP...The 2008 plank won't be so casually overlooked. Thanks so much for posting that.

GWB would have signed the assault weapons ban, but Kerry would have pushed for it. This issue is impacted from the bottom up, it's important to focus on our representatives, and make our opinion know, to them, to the Republican Party.

255 posted on 02/06/2007 4:24:26 PM PST by SJackson (Let a thousand flowers bloom and let all our rifles be aimed at the occupation, Abu Mazen 1/11/07)
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To: LetsRok
He will project the plank that endorses him.

ROFLOL!!!!

Yeah, RIGHT! THAT'S what the glad-handing, country club, GOP leadership in CA told CA conservatives about "The Schwartz".

Look at him NOW. Clearly, conservatives got ROOKED!

Don't sit there thinking that the rest of the country's immune.

256 posted on 02/06/2007 4:25:30 PM PST by HKMk23 (No view is admirable or infernal but that the root principle makes it so.)
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To: Alberta's Child
What I find most pathetic about that exchange is the number of times Hannity goes out an includes a rationalization for Rudy's abysmal track record in almost all of his "questions."

There wasn't much depth. Long campaign, he'll get to address these issues.

257 posted on 02/06/2007 4:26:13 PM PST by SJackson (Let a thousand flowers bloom and let all our rifles be aimed at the occupation, Abu Mazen 1/11/07)
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To: Beagle8U

That is 100% True.


258 posted on 02/06/2007 4:28:14 PM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Good post!


259 posted on 02/06/2007 4:35:44 PM PST by mcshot ("If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features." paraphrased anon.)
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To: SJackson

If you think you and yours can nominate a real conservative, be my guest and try. Ain't gonna happen this time. No real conservative has the name rec or the star power except Gingrich, who probably won't run. And if nominated, Newt -- very unfortunately -- wouldn't win.


260 posted on 02/06/2007 4:36:44 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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