[Tokra]

Immigration and gay marriage would have been stopped him from winning anyway.

When has he said he favors gay marriage?

In fact, he has said the opposite - he has said that he believes marriage is ONLY for a man and a woman.

What's the problem with that?

[TitansAFC]

---Rudy: "Marriage should be between a man and a woman. here is exactly the position I've always had."---

LIAR!

New York Daily News,
March 8, 2004

Rudy opposes gay nups ban:

http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg/asc/projects/soin/liveIssues/newyorkmarriage.html

""I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani, who lived with a gay Manhattan couple when he moved out of Gracie Mansion during his nasty divorce.

Giuliani took his gay rights stance just as speculation hits a fever pitch that he's in line to replace Cheney on Bush's ticket...

...Giuliani conceded he's "out of sync" with his party's conservative base, but likened himself to other moderate GOP stars like Gov. Pataki and Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Even Rudy says Rudy isn't a Conservative. And even Rudy says Rudy thinks there should be gay marriage. So take Rudy's word for it: he's NO Conservative (calls himself a moderate), and he supports gay marriage (unless he's lying for votes).

[megatherium]

Some people who say they're against gay marriage will say they support civil unions. I think Rudy might be one of those. He's certainly not anti-gay (he has gay friends, I seem to recall he was sharing a gay friend's condo after he got divorced).

I no longer believe that an insufficiently anti-gay stance will hurt a candidate in the general election. The American people have softened considerably in their attitudes towards gays, if opinion polls are accurate. The primaries are another matter, however.

Personally, I'm more concerned about abortion and immigration.

[Liz]

..... he has said that he believes marriage is ONLY for a man and a woman.....

What Rudy says, and what he does, are two entirely different things.