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1 posted on 02/06/2007 8:00:13 AM PST by PRePublic
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Everytime some moron tells me we need to understand and talk to the enemy, I always say this...Tell me, did they leave a note at the WTC? YOU TELL ME...other than our total destruction, what is it that they want from us? I never get an answer.


2 posted on 02/06/2007 8:02:34 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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As for putting the blame somewhere, those on the extreme left and extreme right wings both place the blame on America.

I have yet to hear someone of the extreme right blame America.

3 posted on 02/06/2007 8:08:06 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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I understand the enemy. I love our smart bombs more and more. Japan would not talk and we had to drop 2 devices on them before they decided Toyko was next. Face it the more we say lets play in the sand box with these nutcases the more they continue to kick sand in the faces of the players. Smart bombs I love them, they should do all my talking for me.
4 posted on 02/06/2007 8:08:43 AM PST by betsyross1776
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Can we send Hillary over to chat and have tea? She would be sent back with her head in a basket, that is what the chatters would get. Hillary , stay here , keep your head and let the smart bomb do the work for you.


6 posted on 02/06/2007 8:10:40 AM PST by betsyross1776
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In the Quran, Islam's holy book, the Prophet Muhammad tells his followers to offer non-Muslims three things: Conversion, second-class citizenship, or war.
Should be posted in big letters on billboards in every city.
8 posted on 02/06/2007 8:11:57 AM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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They hate us because they do not rule us

new tag.
9 posted on 02/06/2007 8:13:24 AM PST by steel_resolve (They hate us because they do not rule us)
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Then there are the far right-wingers who blame terrorism on America because of the television programs and movies that they consider decadent. These right-wingers state that radical Islamists had to wage war to protect their delicate culture.

He's pretty much nailed how the left is acting, but he's wrong about the "right-wingers" blaming terrorism on America. I've NEVER heard anyone from the right blame anyone but the "Religion of Peace" for terrorism. I guess this nut felt like he had to blame the right since he was blaming the left too.

11 posted on 02/06/2007 8:14:51 AM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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It kills me when people (Liberals) say we should "engage the other countries in the region"!

Most of them hate us too. Even Saudi Arabia plots against us behind our back.

This "war" will end two generations after they cease brainwashing their children to hate everyone who is not Islamic and stop acting like seventh century barbarians.

Folks are starting to catch on, but it's pretty close to being too late.

13 posted on 02/06/2007 8:18:30 AM PST by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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From the article. This absolutely not true!
"It's true that no weapons of mass destruction were found"

The WMD was found. Just not in the quantities anticipated. If intelligence was fooled, it was a good deception. But it is hard to believe there was so much intelligence saying Saddam had the stuff, I think it was hidden elsewhere. I don't think Saddam actually believed we would invade. But he may have anticipated new inspections being forced on his weapons. The stockpile will be found in the desert.


15 posted on 02/06/2007 8:24:21 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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This writer is about to lose her job.


17 posted on 02/06/2007 8:26:54 AM PST by Fairview
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Then there are the far right-wingers who blame terrorism on America because of the television programs and movies that they consider decadent. These right-wingers state that radical Islamists had to wage war to protect their delicate culture.

This guy just had to throw in the right didn't he? The only people I have heard blaming America and stating the terrorists are "protecting" their culture are the left wing. The right wingers who are against TV violence(or media violence to be exact)are concerned about the rise of violence(non muslim)and are NOT blaming America but the meida industry.

20 posted on 02/06/2007 8:30:13 AM PST by calex59
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"In the Quran, Islam's holy book, the Prophet Muhammad tells his followers to offer non-Muslims three things: Conversion, second-class citizenship, or war."

The key sentence in this article which is a very good one.

From the time Islam was founded by its "prophet" in the 600's it has used violence and force to expand. At one point, it had conquered a good part of Europe, in addition to its continual expansion in Africa and Asia. In the Middle Ages, Islam was thankfully purged from western Europe. Much of Eastern Europe had to suffer until the 1800s to be relieved of this scourge.

This situation was only reversed in the mid 1800's when western European military technology and power reached the point of not only checking Islamic expansion, but actually dominating a good part of the Islamic world militarily.

During the "Cold War", the dynamics started to change.

Western military technology and weaponry had found its way into the hands of these primitives from western powers and Soviet forces, struggling to control the world.

At the end of the Cold War, a significant number of these primitives now had modern military capabilities - both their sheikdoms and the individuals themselves.

Globalism and increased racial and religious tolerance resulted in the ability of these primitives to expand their populations into areas once excluded to them. The Internet and the television allowed them to view our society and permitted them to compare it with what they were accustomed to and taught to believe was a "correct" society. Those who had infiltrated our society did not come as other immigrants in the past and indeed many immigrants do today - because they admire our society and wanted to be a part of it. They come to convert, to destroy, to kill - and to report back to their homelands on the "degeneracy" of the west.

Due to their own peculiar perspectives, historical experiences and total incapacity to comprehend a free society's tolerance of varying social mores and views, along with the injunctions of their "prophet" and the "Koran", they could only judge our society as defective.

Accordingly, they are attempting to convert us by the sword, by preaching and by example.

What they think of us is not as important as the equal inability of most western liberals to understand THEM and the past historical and present threat posed by them and their "religion".

Nearly any other of religious belief or non-belief is compatible with western civilization.

Islam is not.
24 posted on 02/06/2007 8:50:12 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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Too often the chats -- between ... strangers on the train -- become heated and illogical. I've heard them and seen them argue.

Then there are the far right-wingers who blame terrorism on America because of the television programs and movies that they consider decadent. These right-wingers state that radical Islamists had to wage war to protect their delicate culture.

First of all, that must be some Train Ride you're on Mary. I've taken METRA a gazillion times and all the folks do is sleep, read or do the crossword puzzle. This is of course all since METRA got rid of the 'Club Car' and the booze :-)

Secondly Mary, stop hitting the bong. "Far right-wingers" do not blame America. IIRC Pat Robertson was they only 'wing-nut' who blamed America's decadence for the Islamic Fascists attacks. And Pat and his ilk are in the extreme minority with that line of thinking. So stop with the "Right Wing" nonsense.

Not that (most) television programs and movies aren't perverted, deviate, filthy trash, they are. If the Hays Production Code was brought back today I'd be pleased as punch. And Pat does have one point; We weren't being attacked when Leave It To Beaver was the top TV show and actors kept their clothes on. I really don't need to see Mel Gibson's butt, Sharon Stone's crotch, or Meryl Streep's teats. And I certainly don't want to see remakes of The Maltese Falcon, The Third Man, Shane, or The Big Sleep with nude scenes or that Citizen Kane was gay. (yuck, spit, puke!!)

25 posted on 02/06/2007 8:50:19 AM PST by Condor51 (Where's Attila The Hun when you need him? [Go away Rudy])
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You earn hatred by being good. If God had a house on earth people would break His windows.


26 posted on 02/06/2007 8:50:19 AM PST by SmartAZ
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WOW ........ is this laying it on the line or what?

The lady who wrote this letter is Pam Foster of Pamela Foster and Associates in Atlanta . She recently wrote a letter to a family member serving in Iraq ......... Read it!

"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001 ?

Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania ?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?

Well, I don't. I don't care at all.

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia

I'll care when Abu Musab al-Zarqawi tells the world he is sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.

When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured that I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank that I don't care.

When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts that I don't care.

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran" and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and ---- you guessed it - - I don't care ! ! ! ! !

If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your e-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior!

If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button.

Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country.

I am not deleting this, I am sending it on, but only after

I add:

--"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem."

-- Ronald Reagan

I have another quote that I would like to add AND.......

I hope you forward this such as I have.

"If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God,

then we will be a nation gone under."

also by... Ronald Reagan



27 posted on 02/06/2007 8:52:52 AM PST by Burlem
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I've never heard a right winger say the things this author says they do - never.

In any event....Islamic culture is just about the most perverted there is. A huge porno industry, sex vacations in Egypt and Thailand, gay activity rampant. And if treating the females of one's culture as sex slaves isn't perverted, I don't know what is.

And if they are so incensed about our sexual/social depravity - well, why do they keep looking at it and buying it?


33 posted on 02/06/2007 9:01:43 AM PST by Basheva
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The way we "earned" the "hatred" of Islamists is because we have not accepted Islam's Three Questions: Convert, submit or die.

As much as the Left in the west hates and fears evangelical Christians, their efforts to spread the Gospel of Christ is peaceful in all ways. Contrary-wise, the "gospel" of Islam is spread through coercion and suicide bombers.

If a Christian confronts a non-believer with a plea to accept Christ, but is rebuffed, he will just move on. The Islamist, on the other hand, gets to meet his virgins all the sooner if he dies while trying to force the non-believer to "believe" (as if honest and sincere belief can really be coerced by violence).
37 posted on 02/06/2007 9:04:47 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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They're not offering us conversion. They are offering us war. They declared it loud, explosively and deadly in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. That's something to remember in your next discussion with friends, relatives, or co-workers.

Very Good point! The Muslims have been fighting America since our founding. The Barbary Pirates were Muslims who were exacting tributes from all other trading nations, because they were not Muslim. America paid protection money to them, for a time, so that we could continue trading. Thomas Jefferson decided to fight them and end that practice, and did so. Those were the 'shores of Tripoli' sung about in the Marine Hymn.

Their hatred of America is nothing new, and as the author stated, doesn't stem from anything we've done. They hate us because we exist, free, and outside of Islamic control.

40 posted on 02/06/2007 9:07:26 AM PST by SuziQ
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History teaches us that history teaches us nothing.
In the early morning hours of All Saints' Day, November 1, 1954, guerrillas of the National Liberation Front (Front de Libération Nationale -- FLN) launched attacks in various parts of Algeria against military installations, police posts, warehouses, communications facilities, and public utilities. From Cairo, the FLN broadcast a proclamation calling on Muslims in Algeria to join in a national struggle for the "restoration of the Algerian state, sovereign, democratic, and social, within the framework of the principles of Islam."...
link - http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/alpha/algeria1954.htm

Eventually coming to a neighborhood near you.

Cordially,

45 posted on 02/06/2007 9:16:40 AM PST by Diamond
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Islam is hiding behind israel and america hating to deflect attention from their satanic agenda.


52 posted on 02/06/2007 10:25:44 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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