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Obama, Clinton May Skip Early Debates
The Politico ^ | 2/6/07

Posted on 02/06/2007 5:46:35 AM PST by areafiftyone

What if they gave a debate and nobody came?

What if the media-political complex announced a presidential debate, hired a hall, sent out invitations, lined up 200 folding chairs for the press, and then the major candidates said: "Stick it in your ear. We're not coming."

That could happen this year for one good reason: Major candidates are complaining that too many states are planning too many debates too early.

Nevada has two forums and three debates scheduled already. The first one is supposed to be in two weeks, and guess where it is going to be held?

If you were Nevada and trying to lure the national media to your state, what city would you choose that guaranteed glitz, glitter and good times?

That's right. It's going to be in Carson City.

(Me, I would have held it in Vegas at the Bellagio with the Cirque du Soleil swinging overhead and Wayne Newton as the moderator, but what do I know?)

Other states have already announced their own Democratic and Republican debates, but there are two developments that might alter things considerably.

First, the Democratic National Committee is soon going to call the campaigns together to try to limit the debates. But that may not work. "It will not stop other organizations from holding debates," a DNC source admitted.

More importantly, however, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton may just say no. They might do the unthinkable and just refuse to show up.

Early debates are helpful to second- and third-tier candidates because those candidates need publicity.

But what do front-runners get from debates? Nothing but risk. They already have publicity. To the top tier, early debates are a negative, an ordeal, a chance for the rest of the pack to nip them in their rear ends.

Aren't debates the "music of democracy," however, a chance for the public to learn about important issues of our day?

Maybe they were once upon a time when the League of Women Voters ran them, but debates today must be good television and that means a snappy, quick-moving show with short answers -- not soliloquies on serious issues.

I went to a slew of primary debates during the 2004 presidential cycle - - the DNC tried and failed to control them - - and if any of the debates were memorable, I can't remember it.

The major candidates hated them. The debates not only screwed up their schedules, but took a ton of prep time that could have been better spent going out and actually meeting voters.

The stakes at debates are extremely high because reporters attend them for the same reason people attend the Indy 500: to see who crashes and burns.

There is, therefore, an enormous priority on not screwing up. And the major candidates soon learn it is safer to stick to their stump speeches than to risk making news. The minor candidates, with nothing to lose, are free to go ballistic, play to the crowd and attack the top tier.

So why do the major candidates show up?

Debate organizers try to make the debates refusal-proof by co-sponsoring them with major media, labor unions, or organizations like the Congressional Black Caucus.

But guess what? Neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama has accepted any debate or forum invitations as of yet.

"The two people who can blow up the debates are those two," an adviser to the Obama campaign told me. "All they have to do is say: 'Debate without me. Go ahead.'

"There will be some accusations that they are being arrogant, but where it is written that you have to debate this early?"

And Obama and Hillary have the perfect excuse for not showing up: They have day jobs.

"They should be voting in the Senate, not running around to the debates," the adviser said. "Hillary and Obama should band together and say, 'It is not in our interest to debate this early. We've got jobs to do. October is plenty early for debates.' "

Me, I like debates. I rack up frequent flier miles. I go to expense-account dinners. I whisper rude and juvenile things to other reporters while the debates are going on.

The debate sponsors - - and they include some very powerful people and organizations - - will howl like crazy if the top candidates refuse to show up. And those who refuse may be threatened with retaliation.

But just saying no always did take guts.


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Why am I not surprised at this. Hillary is a coward and Obama is just not experienced enough and is too much into himself.
1 posted on 02/06/2007 5:46:38 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
How conveeeeeeenient!
2 posted on 02/06/2007 5:49:47 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: areafiftyone
But just saying no always did take guts.

This makes me sick--the media not only boosting Hillary, but now, making it easier for her not to debate. IOW, deliberately sabotaging a democratic process.

Despicable.

3 posted on 02/06/2007 5:53:57 AM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: proud American in Canada

I had this feeling about her. She's always taken the easy way out when it came to debating or even doing interviews. This will be her downfall.


4 posted on 02/06/2007 5:54:55 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

-pair of empty suits with nothing to say. Figures.


5 posted on 02/06/2007 5:56:18 AM PST by tioga
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To: areafiftyone

No surprise that Hillary may want to skip the early ones.

She wants to avoid potentially devastating early blunders.

She wants to cement her lead. Then, she can be more influential in getting softball questions and stack the deck regarding potentional questioners.

[Hey, Newt. Take notice. You wanted to see Hillary in a dozen or so debates. She ain't gonna! She ain't that stupid, Newt.]


6 posted on 02/06/2007 5:56:49 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Spot on ! They both are afraid of the questions as they have no answers nor do they have an ethical core position to form opinions and answers that work.

America! there are better choices than these two social climbing "Paris Hilton" Senators.


7 posted on 02/06/2007 6:03:12 AM PST by colonialhk (Power and Money,the new mantra of the left!)
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To: areafiftyone
If the two front runner collude to avoid debating they run the risk of energizing number three. That would be Edwards at this point. Do you see one and two giving three an edge? Tricky ground to negotiate. Don't you think?
8 posted on 02/06/2007 6:10:08 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: areafiftyone
"Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton may just say no"

Both said "What the hell do I say if they ask a legitimate question that isn't one I have had my staff prepare? I only go on MSM shows when I provide what questions can be asked (all softballs), and if I ever have to address a REAL issue, I'll crap my pants!"

9 posted on 02/06/2007 6:11:02 AM PST by traditional1
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To: areafiftyone
The Shrieker can only hurt herself when she opens her mouth. The only way she can gain any ground is by sitting royally by and acting as though she doesn't need to say anything.
10 posted on 02/06/2007 6:14:08 AM PST by bannie
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To: Phlap

Exactly. She's giving Edwards an edge and so is Obama.


11 posted on 02/06/2007 6:19:09 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

Maybe we can convince Al Sharpton to debate Dennis Kucinich again.


12 posted on 02/06/2007 6:19:20 AM PST by sono (There are only two exit strategies - One is victory, the other defeat - Joe Lieberman)
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To: pinz-n-needlez; onyx; ohioWfan; Texasforever; BigSkyFreeper; Tamzee; mrs tiggywinkle; Dog; ...
But guess what? Neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama has accepted any debate or forum invitations as of yet.

Not one, huh??

Well they can't hide forever

13 posted on 02/06/2007 6:20:10 AM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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She wants to cement her lead. Then, she can be more influential in getting softball questions and stack the deck regarding potentional questioners

With Obama and Edwards in the race .. she will have a very hard time cementing a lead with the base .. especially if she looks like a coward avoiding them

Obama can get away with it because the base love him .. they hate her

14 posted on 02/06/2007 6:23:00 AM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Mo1

They're not only cut and runners from the war, they don't even have the guts to debate each other, for crying out loud.


15 posted on 02/06/2007 6:26:53 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: areafiftyone

Typical.


16 posted on 02/06/2007 6:51:57 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: areafiftyone

Did I miss the part that explains it's only democrats who are balking at too many debates?

And just why would Obama and Hillary be in cahoots on this complaint of too many debates. Do you think the decision has already been made there will be a Hillary/Obama ticket in 08?


17 posted on 02/06/2007 6:52:53 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: YaYa123

Well if Hillary and Obama don't wish to debate, more power to the rest of the field.


18 posted on 02/06/2007 6:55:58 AM PST by maxter
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To: YaYa123

I notice in every election it's mostly Democrats who do that. And they get away with it. The MSM should call them on that.


19 posted on 02/06/2007 6:57:57 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Mo1

No...they can't hide forever...BUT the longer they go without having to answer any questions....the more the MSM will answer their questions for them...by their pandering to them, their worship of them.

Unfortuntately, the author is very correct in what he says...that no one will MAKE them...they won't get punished by their constituents...

Face it....the MSM and Dems are in cahoots to have a CORONATION of Hillary, instead of a campaign and election.


20 posted on 02/06/2007 7:07:49 AM PST by Txsleuth
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