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Snickers (dustup)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | February 6, 2007 | Daniel Rubin

Posted on 02/06/2007 2:41:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

We need to go back for one more bite of that Snickers Super Bowl ad.

Monday a blogstorm kicked up over the ad that showed two mechanics fighting over a Snickers bar and inadvertently kissing, with the largest gay civil rights group calling on the Mars Inc., the candy company, to pull several alternative endings and related material from its Web site.

And before the day was done, the material had been pulled, as were plans to show one of the alternate endings during the Daytona 500 telecast.

Here was Ameriblog's mid-day headline: "Snickers Superbowl Web site promotes violence against gays and lesbians. Bears & Colts players react in disgust, on camera, to gays."

The ad, which aired during Sunday's game, showed two guys working on a car. One is leaning over the hood, eating a Snickers bar. The other can't help but start chewing on the free end. They work their way toward the middle until they realize their lips have touched. Then, calling for a manly act, each rips a clump of hair from his chest.

But that wasn't the problem.

"You ain't seen nothin' yet," writes John Aravosis, a DC political consultant on his Ameriblog site. Aravosis, who had advocated against anti-gay actions in creating the StopDrLaura.com site and the Matthew Shepard Online Resources, took issue with the now-down Snickers site's showing the reactions of three Bears and two Colts players who had watched the ad. He also questioned three alternative endings to the spot.

I didn't see video of the player's reactions before the site was changed. Aravosis reports that one player said, "That ain't right." A second made a face twisted with disgust.

"These guys are role models for kids, and they're telling America's kids ... that two guys kissing ain't right," Aravosis writes.

One of the alternative endings had a third guy approaching after the close encounter. Brushing his hair from his eyes, he asked "is there room for three on this Love Boat." In another, instead of pulling out chests hair after the kiss, they drink motor oil and anti-freeze.

Aravosis writes, "They guzzle it down, screaming at the top of their lungs, making them sick to their stomachs. The ad is vaguely violent - better to die than be gay."

The next one might be worst, by Avarosis' account. After the kiss, one picks up a wrench and attacks the other. Then the second slams the hood of the car of the head of the other. Aravosis: "Yes, the appropriate reaction to a guy kissing you is to beat the crap out of the guy who kissed you. Maybe Snickers should rename this ad 'Matthew Shepard."

He concludes:

The entire thing is absolutely sickening. And while I can appreciate that Snickers didn't overtly think that promoting violence against gays and lesbians is "funny," they knew what they were doing. They were gay-bashing for fun. And they didn't just cross the line - they left the line in the dust.

My first reaction when I read this, was that he was making much ado about nothing. Particularly when the progressive blogger noted that the family that owns Mars is a big supporter of the Republican party. Leaving his feet to the throw a punch, I thought.

But what was up with showing ball player after ball player react to the video? And after watching the now-pulled alternative endings, which can still be seen here, I'm wondering what the ad agency and Mars officials were going for. Making fun of rednecks? As some Ameriblog readers concluded.

Not everyone reading Ameriblog was as outraged. A commenter, signing his opinion Just Some Guy, wrote:

Now I realize that with the new Democratic majority in Congress, and the rising liberal sentiment in this country, that some people are going to want to flex their muscles. And rightfully so.

However, wouldn't it be best to use some form of restrain, rather than picking knee-jerk fights over every little thing which may offend someone? The entire air of "political correctness" from the '80s is exactly the vehicle the neofascists rode in to power, and it's resurgence was used by GWB to rally his base.

There's a difference between a racist tirade by Michael Richards or Michelle Malkin, and a joke by Sara Silverman or Lisa Lampinelli. The difference is malice, and I just didn't see the malice in the commercial.

I would suggest shrugging off things said in jest. Otherwise you are going to end up crying wolf, and that's the same reason people are currently tuning out GWB and his fearmongering. Please, don't set yourself up to be tuned out- it weakens us all.


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To: longtermmemmory
the premis is that they are homosexuals in denial but the candy bar brought them "out".

That and the overreaction.

121 posted on 02/06/2007 7:23:41 PM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: ShadowDancer
Question. Which are worse, the callouses on your knuckles or on your palms?

Hahaha! Thats hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.

122 posted on 02/06/2007 8:36:43 PM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName (You lie, cheat and steal.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I thought it was funny. Isn't that the way two straight men would act let's be real. How about when John Candy and Chevy Chase were on a road trip lying in bed with each other and then realzing who they were in bed with didn't they jump up and say how's those packers our something like that. Who cares


123 posted on 02/06/2007 8:41:06 PM PST by proudCArepublican
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To: Wormwood

Over at my house, we thought the commercials were pretty funny.



ooookay.


124 posted on 02/08/2007 3:33:21 AM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: wally-balls
This is a bit off the point but I can't resist - from now on we should only refer to these bipeds as homosexuals.

Good point. Never give the other guy the dictionary.

125 posted on 02/10/2007 12:44:48 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: WhiteGuy
You know, I have heard from a number of very well educated people that when men become "disgusted" or react in an overly strong fashion to homosexual subject matter, it is because they harbor a self loathing based on their own most private feelings.....................

That's a stock gay argument intended to suppress the reactions of others.

Your "very well educated people" were probably a) liberal or b) gay themselves and having you on.

126 posted on 02/10/2007 12:49:43 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

That's a stock gay argument intended to suppress the reactions of others.

How would you know????????

(not that there's anything wrong with that.......)

(No, not at all)



Your "very well educated people" were probably a) liberal or b) gay themselves and having you on.

Are you trying to convince me, or yourself?


127 posted on 02/10/2007 7:42:17 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: WhiteGuy
How would you know????????

By encountering it in use by gay "werewolf" posters both here and on Salon's "TableTalk", and by reading about its uses in the infamous "manual" article on mau-mauing the straights, "Overhauling Straight America" (Hunter Madsen et al.), that eventually became After the Ball.

Read up on it a bit. It's classic propaganda. These guys don't discuss, they don't expound, they don't advocate -- they play dirty and they play to win, and when you engage with them, you're fighting it out for the ownership of the future. They're determined to own it -- and to lock all those pious religionists in their own churches. They're determined that observant Christians and Jews will become the new "closet cases". They are flat vicious.

But maybe you knew that.

Are you trying to convince me, or yourself?

The lurkers, the people who read but don't know the issues, don't know the blackbelt stuff, the appeals to motive, to ego, to sympathy, or, as Marlon Brando once said, "what have you got?"

128 posted on 02/10/2007 8:04:23 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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