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Snickers (dustup)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | February 6, 2007 | Daniel Rubin

Posted on 02/06/2007 2:41:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

We need to go back for one more bite of that Snickers Super Bowl ad.

Monday a blogstorm kicked up over the ad that showed two mechanics fighting over a Snickers bar and inadvertently kissing, with the largest gay civil rights group calling on the Mars Inc., the candy company, to pull several alternative endings and related material from its Web site.

And before the day was done, the material had been pulled, as were plans to show one of the alternate endings during the Daytona 500 telecast.

Here was Ameriblog's mid-day headline: "Snickers Superbowl Web site promotes violence against gays and lesbians. Bears & Colts players react in disgust, on camera, to gays."

The ad, which aired during Sunday's game, showed two guys working on a car. One is leaning over the hood, eating a Snickers bar. The other can't help but start chewing on the free end. They work their way toward the middle until they realize their lips have touched. Then, calling for a manly act, each rips a clump of hair from his chest.

But that wasn't the problem.

"You ain't seen nothin' yet," writes John Aravosis, a DC political consultant on his Ameriblog site. Aravosis, who had advocated against anti-gay actions in creating the StopDrLaura.com site and the Matthew Shepard Online Resources, took issue with the now-down Snickers site's showing the reactions of three Bears and two Colts players who had watched the ad. He also questioned three alternative endings to the spot.

I didn't see video of the player's reactions before the site was changed. Aravosis reports that one player said, "That ain't right." A second made a face twisted with disgust.

"These guys are role models for kids, and they're telling America's kids ... that two guys kissing ain't right," Aravosis writes.

One of the alternative endings had a third guy approaching after the close encounter. Brushing his hair from his eyes, he asked "is there room for three on this Love Boat." In another, instead of pulling out chests hair after the kiss, they drink motor oil and anti-freeze.

Aravosis writes, "They guzzle it down, screaming at the top of their lungs, making them sick to their stomachs. The ad is vaguely violent - better to die than be gay."

The next one might be worst, by Avarosis' account. After the kiss, one picks up a wrench and attacks the other. Then the second slams the hood of the car of the head of the other. Aravosis: "Yes, the appropriate reaction to a guy kissing you is to beat the crap out of the guy who kissed you. Maybe Snickers should rename this ad 'Matthew Shepard."

He concludes:

The entire thing is absolutely sickening. And while I can appreciate that Snickers didn't overtly think that promoting violence against gays and lesbians is "funny," they knew what they were doing. They were gay-bashing for fun. And they didn't just cross the line - they left the line in the dust.

My first reaction when I read this, was that he was making much ado about nothing. Particularly when the progressive blogger noted that the family that owns Mars is a big supporter of the Republican party. Leaving his feet to the throw a punch, I thought.

But what was up with showing ball player after ball player react to the video? And after watching the now-pulled alternative endings, which can still be seen here, I'm wondering what the ad agency and Mars officials were going for. Making fun of rednecks? As some Ameriblog readers concluded.

Not everyone reading Ameriblog was as outraged. A commenter, signing his opinion Just Some Guy, wrote:

Now I realize that with the new Democratic majority in Congress, and the rising liberal sentiment in this country, that some people are going to want to flex their muscles. And rightfully so.

However, wouldn't it be best to use some form of restrain, rather than picking knee-jerk fights over every little thing which may offend someone? The entire air of "political correctness" from the '80s is exactly the vehicle the neofascists rode in to power, and it's resurgence was used by GWB to rally his base.

There's a difference between a racist tirade by Michael Richards or Michelle Malkin, and a joke by Sara Silverman or Lisa Lampinelli. The difference is malice, and I just didn't see the malice in the commercial.

I would suggest shrugging off things said in jest. Otherwise you are going to end up crying wolf, and that's the same reason people are currently tuning out GWB and his fearmongering. Please, don't set yourself up to be tuned out- it weakens us all.


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To: WhiteGuy
LOL!

Well, I wouldn't want to charge the football jocks who said "That ain't right!" with latent homosexual tendencies.

FYI, I'm eating a Snickers right now. YUM!!!!

101 posted on 02/06/2007 10:08:11 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: NittanyLion
ROFL! You're absolutely right about that.

All one has to do to find proof is just cruise our FR forum for about 5 minutes and you'll see all sorts of xenophobia, homophobia and bigotry.

"Not that there's anything wrong with that" -Jerry Seinfeld ;^)

102 posted on 02/06/2007 10:13:13 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
I ask if the Land of Oz has same sex marriages...
Just more of your "observing"?
...and you call me homophobic?
I didn't call you homophobic. I said quite clearly..."You seem to have a hang-up." You appear to have interpreted that in a most peculiar manner.
Get lost, creep.
Poor you. Open forum, can't comply.
Too hot in the kitchen?
103 posted on 02/06/2007 10:23:03 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Bryan

the premis is that they are homosexuals in denial but the candy bar brought them "out".

feel free to be freudian on the symbols.


104 posted on 02/06/2007 10:26:51 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DCPatriot
I'm just waiting for the Metrosexual crowd to climb on in and boycott Mars for appeasing the gays by pulling the anti-gay ad as well as making an ad that might be interpretted as anti-gay......

Can't we all just get along! hehehe

105 posted on 02/06/2007 10:30:47 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: longtermmemmory; WhiteGuy

Hey, WhiteGuy, longtermmemmory has a very good reply at 104 that you might find interesting.


106 posted on 02/06/2007 10:37:34 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36

metrosexuals are homosexuals.


107 posted on 02/06/2007 11:07:13 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
No they're not.

But you are the very definition of a homophobic moron for suggesting it. ;^)

108 posted on 02/06/2007 11:13:06 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: SkyPilot

Excellent. Thank you. Totally agree with you, hubby and I.


109 posted on 02/06/2007 11:17:26 AM PST by twigs
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To: longtermmemmory

the premis is that they are homosexuals in denial but the candy bar brought them "out".

NOW I get it.


110 posted on 02/06/2007 12:54:56 PM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: DCPatriot

wrong, the whole laughable marketing spin of metrosexual is that they are essentially closseted homosexuals. Just like this commercials which was pushing the broken back snickers. Perhaps you should visit more often on FreeRepublic.

Resorting to such childish name calling only proves the lack of intellect behind your argument.


111 posted on 02/06/2007 1:35:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Resorting to such childish name calling only proves the lack of intellect behind your argument.

LOL! Oh...that's rich!

Metrosexuals get manicures, pedicures, hair color, plastic surgery and take care of their bodies and health.

They can dry themselves after a shower with a white towel and leave no 'stains'...if you know what I mean. ;^)

If they were homosexuals, they'd be called homosexuals. Therefore not all metrosexuals and homosexuals.

Thanks for playing, though.

112 posted on 02/06/2007 1:41:33 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have found the much-anticipated Super Bowl commercials to be dull and unfunny for well over a decade now.

It's really something that the marketing whizzes and network execs have convinced Americans to look forward to stupid commercials.


113 posted on 02/06/2007 1:43:31 PM PST by HitmanLV ("I mean, that's a storybook, man!")
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To: WhiteGuy
That's not the premise at all. LOL!

This thread is quite revealing to say the least.

Stupidity and ignorance are alive and well here on the forum.

114 posted on 02/06/2007 1:44:06 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

If it were normal people offended by the add showing two men kissing do you think they would yank the add??


115 posted on 02/06/2007 1:50:48 PM PST by NoDRodee
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To: NoDRodee
Technically the two guys didn't kiss. Their lips came into contact with each other from eating the candy bar from opposite ends.

As soon as they realized their lips met....you know the rest of the story.

The commercial ad was a huge success because of the publicity. Pulling the ad just piles on the interest...as we're still discussing it.

116 posted on 02/06/2007 2:02:23 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
as evidenced by how comically they decided to exhibit their machoness. ------ It didn't appear to be comical to them. It looked to me like there was some panic in their response to what they must have believed was a kiss, however accidental. Otherwise, why respond that way to an accident? Whatever. I still would have preferred better looking men. (LOL) I don't think my husband would have ever bitten to the other end of that candy bar. Kinda strange behavior coming from macho men.
117 posted on 02/06/2007 6:36:52 PM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Some have said it was the suggestion that "red necks" are homophobic. Could be but it sure is strange to me that two macho men would even bite opposite ends of a candy bar in the first place. Are greasy, dirty mechanic types prone to be gay?
118 posted on 02/06/2007 6:39:59 PM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: ShadowDancer
My kids know better than to talk when a game is on but they can yak away during commercials. When they started talking Sunday during the first commercial break I told them to shut up and they looked at me like I was drunk. LOL

You weren't?

119 posted on 02/06/2007 6:42:56 PM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName (You lie, cheat and steal.)
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName

Question. Which are worse, the callouses on your knuckles or on your palms?


120 posted on 02/06/2007 7:20:13 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Life is not tried, it is merely survived if you're standing outside the fire.)
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