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Snickers (dustup)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | February 6, 2007 | Daniel Rubin

Posted on 02/06/2007 2:41:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

We need to go back for one more bite of that Snickers Super Bowl ad.

Monday a blogstorm kicked up over the ad that showed two mechanics fighting over a Snickers bar and inadvertently kissing, with the largest gay civil rights group calling on the Mars Inc., the candy company, to pull several alternative endings and related material from its Web site.

And before the day was done, the material had been pulled, as were plans to show one of the alternate endings during the Daytona 500 telecast.

Here was Ameriblog's mid-day headline: "Snickers Superbowl Web site promotes violence against gays and lesbians. Bears & Colts players react in disgust, on camera, to gays."

The ad, which aired during Sunday's game, showed two guys working on a car. One is leaning over the hood, eating a Snickers bar. The other can't help but start chewing on the free end. They work their way toward the middle until they realize their lips have touched. Then, calling for a manly act, each rips a clump of hair from his chest.

But that wasn't the problem.

"You ain't seen nothin' yet," writes John Aravosis, a DC political consultant on his Ameriblog site. Aravosis, who had advocated against anti-gay actions in creating the StopDrLaura.com site and the Matthew Shepard Online Resources, took issue with the now-down Snickers site's showing the reactions of three Bears and two Colts players who had watched the ad. He also questioned three alternative endings to the spot.

I didn't see video of the player's reactions before the site was changed. Aravosis reports that one player said, "That ain't right." A second made a face twisted with disgust.

"These guys are role models for kids, and they're telling America's kids ... that two guys kissing ain't right," Aravosis writes.

One of the alternative endings had a third guy approaching after the close encounter. Brushing his hair from his eyes, he asked "is there room for three on this Love Boat." In another, instead of pulling out chests hair after the kiss, they drink motor oil and anti-freeze.

Aravosis writes, "They guzzle it down, screaming at the top of their lungs, making them sick to their stomachs. The ad is vaguely violent - better to die than be gay."

The next one might be worst, by Avarosis' account. After the kiss, one picks up a wrench and attacks the other. Then the second slams the hood of the car of the head of the other. Aravosis: "Yes, the appropriate reaction to a guy kissing you is to beat the crap out of the guy who kissed you. Maybe Snickers should rename this ad 'Matthew Shepard."

He concludes:

The entire thing is absolutely sickening. And while I can appreciate that Snickers didn't overtly think that promoting violence against gays and lesbians is "funny," they knew what they were doing. They were gay-bashing for fun. And they didn't just cross the line - they left the line in the dust.

My first reaction when I read this, was that he was making much ado about nothing. Particularly when the progressive blogger noted that the family that owns Mars is a big supporter of the Republican party. Leaving his feet to the throw a punch, I thought.

But what was up with showing ball player after ball player react to the video? And after watching the now-pulled alternative endings, which can still be seen here, I'm wondering what the ad agency and Mars officials were going for. Making fun of rednecks? As some Ameriblog readers concluded.

Not everyone reading Ameriblog was as outraged. A commenter, signing his opinion Just Some Guy, wrote:

Now I realize that with the new Democratic majority in Congress, and the rising liberal sentiment in this country, that some people are going to want to flex their muscles. And rightfully so.

However, wouldn't it be best to use some form of restrain, rather than picking knee-jerk fights over every little thing which may offend someone? The entire air of "political correctness" from the '80s is exactly the vehicle the neofascists rode in to power, and it's resurgence was used by GWB to rally his base.

There's a difference between a racist tirade by Michael Richards or Michelle Malkin, and a joke by Sara Silverman or Lisa Lampinelli. The difference is malice, and I just didn't see the malice in the commercial.

I would suggest shrugging off things said in jest. Otherwise you are going to end up crying wolf, and that's the same reason people are currently tuning out GWB and his fearmongering. Please, don't set yourself up to be tuned out- it weakens us all.


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To: DCPatriot

The actors still deliberately kiessed. You can call it an "accident" if it makes you feel better".


81 posted on 02/06/2007 8:02:34 AM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: ElPatriota

You're insane.


82 posted on 02/06/2007 8:03:43 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: FreedomGuru

They also see no contradiction in claiming that views are silenced (like "homosexuality is good and normal") while at the same time cheering and patting themselves on the back for getting Dr. Laura's tv show cancelled with Gaystapo tactics.


83 posted on 02/06/2007 8:05:40 AM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: weegee
The actors still deliberately kiessed [sic].

LOL! More than once...unless you think it was a wrap on the 1st take. '^)

As an aside, I wonder how this 'disaster' ranks up there with say....a nuclear Iran or confiscatory taxation to fund universal healthcare?

You're all nuttier than....a SNICKERS bar.

84 posted on 02/06/2007 8:07:51 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

Who are you to question that blogger? He clearly accepts PC-groupthink and sees no wrong from the "approved" violators of hate speech rules of conduct.

All animals are equal. Some are more equal than others.

4 legs are good. 2 legs are bad. Except when the 4-legged pigs get up and walk on 2 legs.


85 posted on 02/06/2007 8:11:04 AM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: DCPatriot; Dosa26

You can check here to see which companies and ads are getting the Gaystapo Cheers and Jeers.

http://www.commercialcloset.org/

There are 13 ads found when I searched the site for Mars. Inc.


86 posted on 02/06/2007 8:14:55 AM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

That comment wasn't made in my post.


87 posted on 02/06/2007 8:18:17 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/postseason/superads

Here's a link to all the commercials. Click on Advertizers, then Snickers to see the commercial. Stupid commercial IMHO.

On my racing sail boat, Snickers were knows as "Brain Food" and broken out when the "speedo" was less than 1.00.

88 posted on 02/06/2007 8:18:30 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This image looks pretty good to me!


89 posted on 02/06/2007 8:24:31 AM PST by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: DCPatriot

I love Snickers bars and will continue to eat them, But not while I am fixing my car with my friend unless its the king sized bar.


90 posted on 02/06/2007 8:27:30 AM PST by CharacterCounts
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To: CharacterCounts

LOL! Exactly.


91 posted on 02/06/2007 8:41:00 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My reaction was why on earth would they feature two grimy, smelly, unshaven redneck mechanic types kissing? Ofcourse audience reaction would be one of discust. They should have at least brushed their teeth before the shoot.


92 posted on 02/06/2007 8:41:50 AM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: DCPatriot
Just observing homophobia that's all...
Yeah, right! You seem to have a hang-up.
Even when none is there, like in the link, you somehow manage to still find it.
I have no "fear of queer" (a phobia is defined as an exaggerated usually inexplicable and illogical fear of a particular object, class of objects, or situation) and I'll call whatever I find disgusting just that...disgusting!

Your intentions, which seems to be to slight folks, are disgusting.

93 posted on 02/06/2007 9:56:18 AM PST by philman_36
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To: jws3sticks

94 posted on 02/06/2007 9:58:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Joan Kerrey

Some have said it was the suggestion that "red necks" are homophobic.


95 posted on 02/06/2007 9:59:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: philman_36
You're reading comprehension seems lacking, IMO.

You joke that The Scarecrow and The Tinman...who are both males, had a child together.

I ask if the Land of Oz has same sex marriages...and you call me homophobic?

Get lost, creep.

96 posted on 02/06/2007 10:00:39 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Maybe Snickers should rename this ad 'Matthew Shepard."
________________________________________________________


As I understand it Matthew Shepard knew the two men who killed him. They had traded Meth for sex in the past (Shepard offering Meth).

The MSM doesn't talk about that part of the story.
97 posted on 02/06/2007 10:01:37 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Joan Kerrey
They did NOT kiss.

Their mouths accidently touched when the Snickers was gone.

It wasn't like they deep throated each other.

What they did was not kissing, IMO, as evidenced by how comically they decided to exhibit their machoness.

98 posted on 02/06/2007 10:04:05 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
You all are over-reacting morons.

Indeed,

You know, I have heard from a number of very well educated people that when men become "disgusted" or react in an overly strong fashion to homosexual subject matter, it is because they harbor a self loathing based on their own most private feelings.....................

but that couldn't be the case here.......right?

and yes, Snickers Rule!
99 posted on 02/06/2007 10:05:22 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: DCPatriot

I've come to the conclusion that there are a large contingent of people who just enjoy being perpetually offended. At one time I thought they were relegated to the left side of the political spectrum, but I've since learned that isn't the case.


100 posted on 02/06/2007 10:07:08 AM PST by NittanyLion
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