Game over on global warming?

Los Angeles Times ^ | 02/05/2007 | Alan Zarembo

[NicknamedBob]

What you get when you Google up, "If all the ice were melted."

So-called Anthropogenic Global Warming is an outrageous hoax. Our contribution to Carbon Dioxide may be on the order of one percent, and its contribution to "Greenhouse" gases is only five percent of that of water vapor!

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/environment/waterworld.html

Note that it has taken 18,000 years to melt 60% of the ice from the last ice age. The remaining ice is almost entirely at the north and south poles and is isolated from warmer weather. To melt the ice of Greenland and Antarctica would take thousands of years under any realistic change in climate.



http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/environment/earthnoice.jpg

Today the Earth has 148 million sq. km of land area, of which 16 million sq. km is covered by glaciers. A sea level rise of 66 meters would flood about 13 million sq. km of land outside Antarctica. Without polar ice, Antarctica and Greenland would be ice free, although about half of Antarctica would be under water. Thus, ice-free land would be 128 million sq. km compared to 132 million sq. km today.

As a result, in terms of total habitable land area, the Earth might have more than today. The coastal areas reclaimed by the sea would be mostly offset by now habitable areas of Greenland and Antarctica. Again, remember that such climate change would take thousands of years. Over such time scales vegetation would be restored to newly ice-free regions even without human activity. Also, vast areas which are now desert and tundra would become more fit for human habitation and agriculture.

For those curious as to what the Earth would be like with the ice caps melted, this report has hopefully given an illustration, along with some perspective: this sort of change cannot be affected by modern human activity even given many centuries. It is sad that some youngsters think that burning of hydrocarbons could cause the ice caps to melt and drown cities; it is criminal when teachers don't correct this nonsense. And it should tell you much of environmental groups like the Sierra Club when they use such myths to further an extremist political agenda.

by Wm. Robert Johnston (excerpted)

This "worst case scenario" looks pretty darmed good!

[Islander2]

Richard Somerville, a theoretical meteorologist


Meaning: in theory he is a meteorologist.

[skimask]

The real reason for global warming

[mountn man]

5 below zero here right now. We haven't been above 15 above zero for the last 5 days.

I could go for a little global warming right now.

If too much CO2 in the atmosphere causes global warming, did we suddenly loose too much CO2? Or is there something else that causes cooling?

[mountn man]

and 20 severe changes over 110,000 years means my SUV didn't cause it.

OK it wasn't yours. But I know it was somebodies.

It wasn't Albores either.

(Or his jet)

[Constantine XIII]

1) Develop molecular nanotechnology
2) Develop strong AI
3) ????
4) PROFIT

[johnmark7]

Put some Levelor blinds between us and the sun. The sun, the tilt of the earth, the magnetosphere interacting with the plasma from the sun, these are things that cause climate change.

[mountn man]

The average annual temperature at the South Pole is -50 degrees C and generally ranges between -21 degrees C in the summer and -78 degrees C in the winter.

http://astro.uchicago.edu/cara/vtour/pole/

Its going to take more than a 3 degree temperature rise to melt that ice.

[padre35]

Manbearpig ping!

[NicknamedBob]

Step three? Develop space

[mountn man]

I'm gonna move here. The view is better.

Colossal hurricane-like storm seen on Saturn (with pic)

A colossal, swirling storm with a well-developed eye is churning at Saturn's south pole, the first time a truly hurricane-like storm has been detected on a planet other than Earth, NASA images showed on Thursday.

The storm on the giant, ringed planet is about 5,000 miles

wide, measuring roughly two thirds the diameter of Earth, with winds howling clockwise at 350 mph (550 kph).

[TigersEye]

Don't throw away your snow shovel yet.

[woofie]

Wow... we are more doomed than I thought

[beckett]

Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

The UN IPCC itself estimated the (present value) cost of stabilizing CO2 levels at between $2 trillion and $12 trillion. As the GW alarmists always scream about the worst possible scenarios; it is more than fair to say that the cost would be $12 trillion or more.

See the graph here:

http://www.ipcc.ch/pub/correctionfig73.pdf

[TigersEye]

Given the graph in post #38 it would be $12 trillion for absolutely nothing.

[Candor7]

So what are we supposed to do, exactly?>>>>>>>>>>

Accept a new federal department of Environmental Engineering, which will draft laws which will be put into solar torpedoes, and launched at the sun in order to serve notice on it, that it needs to moderate its energy output.

And step aside while the Global Swarming movement manifests and plays itself out, just like its sister movement in history, " The Prohibition Movement" did in the early 20th Century.

Americans are just too free a people to put up with the hilarious prognostications of Global Swarming Utopian idiots.It was the same with Prohibition. A black market of anti-prohibitionists was created, just as there will be a black market for every banned device and cultural artifact that the Swarmers castigate.

Global warming may or may not be happening ( Its the SUN stupid) but sacrificing virgins to the volcano in the modern sense will have no effect at all on what the sun does.

[Gator113]

Always wear clean underwear and don't leave the house wearing socks with holes.

Actually, all I care about is how this might change sport fishing. ;>)

[RobRoy]

Wow, this from the LA times?!

[Cementjungle]

So what are we supposed to do, exactly?

Buy stock in Carrier and other air conditioning companies.