Vanity: The ultimate harm of betraying traditional American Judeo-Christian values

[Jim Robinson]

When the members of the Republican party betray the sound conservative principles of its founders and its own longstanding party platform and then vote in a leader whose personal beliefs and public record are more in line with those of the degenerate socialist Democrat party, then obviously the Republican party is sliding to the left. When large numbers of the members of a conservative party enthusiastically (you might even say overzealously or militantly) campaign for a social liberal and against sound conservative principles and candidates, then they are pushing the conservative principles, conservative candidates and conservative members out the exit doors.

Should the large number of members militantly campaigning for a socialist liberal for the presidency win out, and the only choices presented to the electorate by the two major political parties both share identical immoral socialist liberal ideologies, and the voter is left with voting for a socialist or a socialist, then obviously the resultant elected government will be a socialist government.

When the Republican Party abandons its conservative principles and abandons its fight against encroaching socialism, then obviously it is no longer a conservative party and we no longer have a major party fighting for traditional American values and against socialism.

When the American people abandon their longstanding traditional conservative family values and instead openly embrace socialism and perverted lifestyles, then America has moved left and is obviously no longer a traditional conservative nation.

When and if the American people abandon their traditional Judeo-Christian morality and traditional American conservative values, and instead opt for corrupt godless liberal/socialist immorality and perversion as the norm, then obviously America will have lost its way.

America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. The Founding Fathers warned us that our style of Republican government would only work for a moral society. When and if we as a nation turn our backs on God and the nation abandons our American traditional Judeo-Christian morals and values, and rampant godless socialism takes over, the America of our Founders ceases to exist.

You can spin it, twist it, deny it, make a million excuses and logical explanations for why electing a social liberal at this time is a good idea, but you cannot deny the simple truth. A social liberal is a liberal and liberals begat liberalism. Liberalism begats socialism. Our nation was founded on the self-evident truth that our unalienable rights come from God. Socialists deny God exists. Socialists say our rights come from men in government robes. What men in government robes give, other men in government robes can take away. Without God we have no unalienable rights. No unalienable rights means no freedom. No freedom means no America.

[upsdriver]

Many of those union guys are conservative, they just don't realize it. It's hard to overcome the conditioning (brain washing) they've had for so many years.

I grew up in a democrat household and my dad is still staunchly democrat. He can't believe his sons (I switched two of my brothers to the conservative side) vote Republican. I guess what I'm saying is there is hope for them. You just need to constantly make your case to them, politely, until they see the light.

[upsdriver]

You stated it better than I did.

[EternalVigilance]

"He wants Hillary to win! He wants to turn it over to the Dems! I can't believe he said that! I've known he was a BircherBuchananiteDUTrollDemInfiltratorMobyStormfronter all along! Are you kidding me! We're at war! He's supporting the terrorists!! He's unappeasable! What a malcontent!! He's never been a real conservative!!! He hates Bush!! He wouldn't say any of this if he wasn't a Bush basher!!! He hates Republicans too!!! What does he want, for everyone to vote third party!!?!! Shut up, Go away!!! We don't need your support anyway!! We don't need the votes of the so-called "conservatives" that you're talking about because they're just a bunch of moronic, right-wing, extremist, fringe whacko, malcontent, unappeasable, fake conservative, democrat loving, stupid hicks who want Hillary for President!!! They probably never voted for Republicans in the first place! They're just Democrats trying to ruin our chances! The site has been infiltrated by BircherBuchananiteDUTrollDemInfiltratorMobyStormfronterracistxenophobantihispanicnazibigots and all they do is whine and bitchbithchbitchbitchbitch all the time."

Gosh. That's the best representation of a Rudy McRomney thread I've ever seen. Now I don't have to even go read one of them for awhile and sicken myself...

[Hildy]

Jim, with all due respect...the way to get things done is to work within the existing parameters. If it's Hillary vs. Rudy, who gets your vote?

[upsdriver]

I agree. The power of prayer is immeasurable. I pray that our enemies hearts will be unhardened.

[Beagle8U]

The problem you run into in trying to get the union voters on anything but the social issues, if they really believe in the union movement they are in fact borderline communists.

There is no way to sugar coat that, unions are based on communism.

The teachers union is a lost cause, you are lucky to get 15% of those votes.

[EternalVigilance]

"He is the best friend to American liberty, who is most sincere and active in promoting true and undefiled religion, and who set himself with the greatest firmness to bear down on profanity and immorality of every kind. Whoever is an avowed enemy of God, I scruple not to call him an enemy to his country." - John Witherspoon, signer of The Declaration of Independence

[EternalVigilance]

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men and Citizens. The mere Politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity…let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason, and experience both forbid us to expect, that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." …"It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible." - George Washington - Farewell Address, Sept. 17, 1796

[Beagle8U]

" If it's Hillary vs. Rudy, who gets your vote?"

None of the above, Rudy will be crushed in the primary.

[EternalVigilance]

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion…Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." - John Adams

[Hildy]

How'd you like to put some money on that...since you're so very sure..I mean, crushed...wow, that's a pretty confident prediction...whatdyasay?

[EternalVigilance]

"Duty is ours; results are God's. The first and almost the only Book deserving of universal attention is the Bible. I speak as a man of the world to men of the world; and I say to you, Search the Scriptures! The Bible is the book of all others, to be read at all ages, and in all conditions of human life; not to be read once or twice or thrice through, and then laid aside, but to be read in small portions of one or two chapters every day, and never to be intermitted, unless by some overruling necessity. In what light so ever we regard the Bible, whether with reference to revelation, to history, or to morality, it is an invaluable and inexhaustible mine of knowledge and virtue. It is no slight testimonial, both to the merit and worth of Christianity, that in all ages since its promulgation the great mass of those who have risen to eminence by their profound wisdom and integrity have recognized and reverenced Jesus of Nazareth as the Son of the living God." "…Posterity- you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." - John Quincy Adams

[upsdriver]

I can agree with that! I am a union member living in a right to work state. The union pushes their left wing crap all the time, but most of my fellow workers are not mesmerized by the unions' line.

Why would the union be against tax cuts? or pro abortion? or for gay rights? How does any of this benefit its members? WHy do they rail against the NRA?

You are right, they are socialist/communist! It's so damn maddening.

[EternalVigilance]

"The command of God is ' He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in fear of God.' 2 Sam. 23:3. This command prescribes the only effectual; remedy for public evils. It is an absurd and impious sentiment, that religious character is not necessary for public officers…But surely as there is a God in heaven who exercises a moral government over affairs of this world, so certainly will the neglect of the divine command, in the choice of rulers, be followed by bad laws, crimes, waste of public money, and a thousand other evils. Men devise and adopt new forms of government; they amend old forms, repair breaches, and punish violators of the constitution; but there is, there can be, no effectual remedy, but obedience to The Divine Law." John Marshal argued, by some to be our greatest Chief Justice of the Supreme Court: "The American population is entirely Christian, and with us Christianity and religion are identified. It would be strange indeed, if such a people, our institutions did not presuppose Christianity, and did not often refer to it, and exhibit relations with it." - Noah Webster

[Beagle8U]

You better hope that he is because the entire Republican party would get crushed in the general election.

[EternalVigilance]

"We have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand, which preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us, and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us." - Abraham Lincoln

[Beagle8U]

" or pro abortion? or for gay rights? How does any of this benefit its members? WHy do they rail against the NRA?"

Those are the winning issues for the Republican party to get those votes!

The RATS get their money from the anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-queer groups and the unions support the RATS. The RAT party is a collection of Godless nutballs and Communists.

[Constantine XIII]

People must realize that we aren't going to win elections until we go out and convince the people living among us on a one-to-one basis that our ideals are right. Until we live our convictions in such a way as to say our fellow citizens, no amount of campaigning, money, blogging, or third party support will change the national government.

IMHO. ;)

[upsdriver]

The RATS get their money from the anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-queer groups and the unions support the RATS. The RAT party is a collection of Godless nutballs and Communists.

Does that mean they are going to have to split the money with the Rudyites?

[Jim Robinson]

With all due respect yourself, seeing as how you're ok with abortion it's no wonder you won't admit the evilness in it.