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Secret plan to bury soldiers alive inside Rock of Gibraltar (WW2 plan if Rock captured)
The Belfast Telegraph ^ | February 5, 2007

Posted on 02/05/2007 12:06:12 PM PST by Stoat

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Events and operations of WW2 naturally invite us to compare with modern times, and I would suggest that if news of this secret plan had been uncovered by journalists of the day that they would have taken great pains to work with Allied commanders to keep it a secret, due to reporters' patriotism and their understanding of the gravity of the situation.

Today, my guess would be that the New York Times would instantly print full details of this on their front page and, as justification, denounce it's 'inhumanity' to the brave doctors involved, while reminding us that the Nazis posed no real threat and how the war is all America's fault anyway.

 

1 posted on 02/05/2007 12:06:20 PM PST by Stoat
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It would be interesting to get some additional details, like how one monitors Germans while sealed in a cave. Electronic listening post perhaps? Periscopes?


2 posted on 02/05/2007 12:09:55 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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So...if they were going to be SEALED inside, how would they monitor anything?? Radio transmissions? And will radio signals penetrate solid rock?


3 posted on 02/05/2007 12:10:28 PM PST by FReepaholic (If daydreaming were an Olympic sport I'd be a gold medalist.)
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You are absolutely right about the NYT my FRiend, not only would they have blown the secrecy around such an operation, they would have published complete blueprints, details, and radio frequencies to be used by those doctors, and probably put out some inane poll to ask readers if they "thought it was inhumane, as inhumane as the Nazis, to bury allied soldiers inside the Rock of Gibraltar".

Clucking their treasonous tongues, and flapping their f'in gums all the way.


4 posted on 02/05/2007 12:12:49 PM PST by mkjessup
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To: SAMWolf; alfa6; Professional Engineer; Soaring Feather; snippy_about_it

Foxholers ping


5 posted on 02/05/2007 12:13:28 PM PST by Samwise (Go Colts, the Super Bowl Champs!)
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To: SAMWolf; alfa6; Professional Engineer; Soaring Feather; snippy_about_it

Foxholers ping


6 posted on 02/05/2007 12:13:36 PM PST by Samwise (Go Colts, the Super Bowl Champs!)
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It would be interesting to get some additional details, like how one monitors Germans while sealed in a cave.

Agreed.  Hopefully the survivor whose story this short article is based upon will be willing to provide more details.  It's such a compelling story, this short article mainly serves to make the reader wish for more.

 Electronic listening post perhaps? Periscopes?

Probably both, and everything that was technologically available at the time.  They had years available to set up the facility, so it was most likely planned quite thoroughly.

7 posted on 02/05/2007 12:14:00 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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So...if they were going to be SEALED inside, how would they monitor anything?? Radio transmissions? And will radio signals penetrate solid rock?

I'm no radio expert, but I believe longwave transmissions will penetrate rock.  Also, lines could be laid beforehand to external disguised antennae or to remote repeaters.  "Sealed" in this context can also be taken too far in that they would obviously need to be supplied with air at least, assuming adequate food and water stockpiles inside the facility.

8 posted on 02/05/2007 12:18:57 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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So...if they were going to be SEALED inside, how would they monitor anything?? Radio transmissions? And will radio signals penetrate solid rock?

I'm certain the mission would planned out better than that, but your post does raise a funny image!

DAY 83: It's still dark in here. Using the laterns sparingly to avoid further fouling of the air. Thought we heard several diesel engines pass by above us somewhere, but hard to be sure. Still uncertain if any of our transmissions are being received. End Report.

9 posted on 02/05/2007 12:19:15 PM PST by Sax
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Churchill probably approved this. He would consider every idea to beat the Nazi.

He even had campaign ready if the German Army had established a beach head in England and was moving forward. It would have been called "You can always take one with you".

10 posted on 02/05/2007 12:23:44 PM PST by AU72
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The Chicago Tribune printed right after the Battle of Midway that we knew the Japanese plans, dispositions, and order of battle before the battle occured.

Apparently the Japanese never noticed the article and thus never understood we'd broken their naval codes.

But in general the "good ol' days" never seem quite as good compared to today as people think.


11 posted on 02/05/2007 12:25:32 PM PST by Strategerist
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Another item that will likely be of interest to readers of this thread:

Dedication of New Normandy American Cemetery Visitor Center Set for June 6, 2007

12 posted on 02/05/2007 12:27:07 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

bttt


13 posted on 02/05/2007 12:27:16 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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DAY 156: We are getting really tired of canned beans. We can no longer light the lanterns for fear of an explosion.


14 posted on 02/05/2007 12:27:40 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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"More beans, Mr. Taggert?"

"I'd say you've had enough!"


15 posted on 02/05/2007 12:29:07 PM PST by T.Smith
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"I'd rather eat Johnson, Sah! Jenkins has a gammy leg!"


16 posted on 02/05/2007 12:31:55 PM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Whining about your good time for a hundred years!)
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The Chicago Tribune printed right after the Battle of Midway that we knew the Japanese plans,

Yes, indeed ... some brainless moron (traitor) in the newspapers of the day reported that our submarines were capable of diving deeper than the Japanese believed to be the case, thus rather handily evading depth-charge attacks (in deep water). The IJN did find out about that one, and promptly set their depth charges for a deeper explosion.

17 posted on 02/05/2007 12:32:50 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Nailbiter

ping...


18 posted on 02/05/2007 12:39:45 PM PST by IncPen (When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he invented Global Warming)
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To: Stoat

There was a Peter Sellers movie called The Blockhouse that was similar. Supposedly that was also based on a true story.


19 posted on 02/05/2007 12:54:03 PM PST by Spaghetti Man (NJ politics suck)
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To: Strategerist

Please don't sully this thread with such trifles. We have no need for facts here, especially when we have such excellent opinions.


20 posted on 02/05/2007 1:06:27 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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