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The story essentially announces a potential merger between the NEA and the Jimmy Carter/Bill Clinton Baptists (scroll down for more on that if you are unfamiliar with this development). Among other things, Reg Weaver is offering associate membership in the NEA and possible support for members of these churches in school board races. In return Weaver is looking to have NEA members placed on boards of deacons and elders (the church ruling bodies) and to have them lobby Congress and other legislatures with the NEA to get more money and power. This is likely to spread across the "moderate" church landscape. If you consider the public policy positions the NEA has taken, the combination of liberal evangelicals and the NEA is both hilarious and alarming.

FROM "THE CONTINUING COLLAPSE"

Jimmy's and Bill's Really Terrific New Kind of Christianity

Unlike most conservative Christians, who implausibly insist that their schools are "different" and that their nine year-olds are little salt shakers sprinkling salt all over in their public schools, Liberal Christians believe that everyone should hand their children over to the government schools for the "common good". From EthicsDaily.com, the publication of the Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton Baptists:

Christians should support public education not as mission field for conversion, but out of a commitment to the common good, Robert Parham of the Baptist Center for Ethics told a Thursday gathering of educators and clergy exploring ways to build more meaningful relationships between churches and schools.

Thus, while we must admit that the promoters of a version of Christianity best described as liberalism with holidays may have, shall we say, an eccentric view of the "common good", at least they don't engage in the utterly mendacious blather of the typical evangelical pastor about how Christian children serve in the government's schools as missionaries.

Not content later on in the article with describing our highly trained education professionals as Hebrew slaves being asked to make bricks without straw, the Baptist Center for Ethics' Mr. Parham, without naming names, continues by taking a jab at Al Mohler and yours truly:

One seminary president, Parham said, supports a movement within the Southern Baptist Convention that labels public schools and "the enemies of God" and "dark and decaying places." The president, Parham said, has stated, "I believe that now is the time for responsible Southern Baptists to develop an exit strategy from the public schools."..."Calling public schools dark and decaying places bears false witness against public schools..." http://www.ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=8489

To combat the scourge of false witness bearing against the government's schools, the Baptist Center for Ethics helpfully provides worship materials for supporting government school teachers and administrators. http://www.ethicsdaily.com/static.cfm?mode=curricula_publiceducation_resource

Jimmy and Bill are rumored to been commissioned by the BCE to design an updated golden calf in the shape of a public school that will soon be made available impartially to liberal and conservative pastors. This will complement the public school worship liturgy quite nicely.

THE TRAGEDY OF OUR UNDERFUNDED SCHOOLS

Speaking of our highly trained education professionals being forced to make bricks without straw:

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, public school teachers earned $34.06 per hour in 2005, 36% more than the hourly wage of the average white-collar worker and 11% more than the average professional specialty or technical worker.

As it turns out, the famously successful Detroit schools are at the top of the "bricks without straw" heap:

Metro Detroit leads the nation, paying its public school teachers, on average, $47.28 per hour. That's 61% more than the average white-collar worker in the Detroit area and 36% more than the average professional worker. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009612

Apparently, despite giving the Detroit public school Hebrew slaves so much straw, Detroit schools are now "at the boiling point":

Leaders of the Detroit Federation of Teachers vowed Thursday to recall the president of the school board as community tensions grew surrounding a plan to close 52 schools and a much-criticized candidate pool for superintendent

The 52 schools represent 20% of Detroit's schools. Over the last 8 years Detroit has lost 51,000, or roughly one-third, of its students, and the future looks bleak for Detroit's highly trained Hebrew slaves:

The district has seen a massive exodus of students over the past eight years -- more than 50,000 or nearly a third of its population. State funding, which is based on attendance, has also fallen sharply -- so much so that the district borrowed more than $200 million in 2005 to stay afloat. A record number of kids left the district this fall -- nearly 12,600 -- after the teachers strike. And the district projects it will have fewer than 100,000 students by 2008. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070112/SCHOOLS/701120393/1003/METRO

The economic consequences of the diaspora from Detroit's schools are striking:

And with the flight of each child, the district watches another $7,500 walk away. All told, the state is spending nearly $380 million a year to educate Detroit children elsewhere. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070115/SCHOOLS/701150362

As I have noted before, few things distress our highly educated education professionals as much as students who leave and take their "straw" with them. In Michigan, even a $224 per student drop in funding (out of about $9,000 per student) would plunge 20% of districts into fiscal crisis. http://www.ednews.org/articles/7445/1/State-cuts-could-push-20-of-school-districts-into-the-red/Page1.html

1 posted on 02/05/2007 10:58:18 AM PST by achilles2000
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2 posted on 02/05/2007 11:00:09 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, public school teachers earned $34.06 per hour in 2005, 36% more than the hourly wage of the average white-collar worker and 11% more than the average professional specialty or technical worker.

As it turns out, the famously successful Detroit schools are at the top of the "bricks without straw" heap:

Metro Detroit leads the nation, paying its public school teachers, on average, $47.28 per hour. That's 61% more than the average white-collar worker in the Detroit area and 36% more than the average professional worker. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009612


Facts really have a way of getting in the way of a good liberal sky is falling rant eh ?
3 posted on 02/05/2007 11:02:36 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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"Step into my parlor," said the spider to the fly.

What was it Lenin said about public education? Something like "Give me your children for five years in a public school and you'll never get them back."

4 posted on 02/05/2007 11:04:34 AM PST by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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Moderate Church means one of unchristian pro terrorist heathenism. Or words to that effect.


5 posted on 02/05/2007 11:07:03 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: achilles2000
Thus, while we must admit that the promoters of a version of Christianity best described as liberalism with holidays may have, shall we say, an eccentric view of the "common good", at least they don't engage in the utterly mendacious blather of the typical evangelical pastor about how Christian children serve in the government's schools as missionaries.

Rimshot!

6 posted on 02/05/2007 11:12:48 AM PST by XR7
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"Reg Weaver is offering associate membership in the NEA and possible support for members of these churches in school board races. In return Weaver is looking to have NEA members placed on boards of deacons and elders (the church ruling bodies) and to have them lobby Congress and other legislatures with the NEA to get more money and power. This is likely to spread across ..

Of course there are no seperation of church and state issues here that the
leftists/Liberals/DemonRATS constantly whine about.

9 posted on 02/05/2007 11:30:19 AM PST by StormEye
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Amazing!


10 posted on 02/05/2007 11:31:35 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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Wonder what the ACLU will say about this. Oh wait, these are libs partnering. Nevermind.


11 posted on 02/05/2007 11:31:53 AM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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The NEA is the reason kids don't learn. It's an adjunct of the Democratic Party.


12 posted on 02/05/2007 11:34:20 AM PST by popdonnelly (Our first obligation is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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Public schools are an integral part of government. In some cases school districts have the power to levy taxes, and even when spending almost $10,000 per pupil per year, which they claim is not enough. God calls says that when a church moves to intertwine its affairs with that of a state, it commits spiritual harlotry.

But this illuminates the effect of both parties ideology. It is not based on principles, it is based on power. Such a merger would disqualify any church from receiving God's blessing.

"No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." Matthew 6:24

Members of this church who object to this merger had either better reclaim control of their organization, or they will have no other choice but to go elsewhere.


14 posted on 02/05/2007 11:41:55 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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...select some of us to be on your deacon board or trustee board...

yeah, and we'll let the pedophiles teach the childrens Sunday schools too...?

/s

18 posted on 02/05/2007 11:52:19 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If voting really changed things, it would be illegal.)
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This is how you pollute a septic tank.


19 posted on 02/05/2007 12:18:18 PM PST by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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Snakes are coiled in the grass.


21 posted on 02/05/2007 12:23:44 PM PST by rfp1234 (Custom-built for Bill Clinton: the new Toyota Priapus.)
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To: achilles2000

As the primary source of indoctrination of children, the Tax-funded, Union-run Government School IS THE STATE CHURCH!

Here are the precepts of the state religion, to which some Freepers also ascribe.

. Everything came from nothing out of nowhere for no apparent reason.

. Life is just a curious side-effect of an unknowing, uncaring cosmos.

. When you die, you are just so much compost.

. The best thing you can hope for is a life of self-gratification and a painless extinction.

This is the nihilistic, hedonistic creed being taught in the American State Church.

If children come out of this system with any vision, or any hope, or any faith whatsoever, it is in SPITE of the system and certainly NOT because of it.

And I'm gonna let you all in on a little secret.

No matter how much money you give the State Church, it will never, never, EVER be enough.

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23 posted on 02/05/2007 1:06:37 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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Sick Sick Sick! The "Separation" rant these leftists and others whine about constantly, only applies of course, to the actually dumbies who believe the Bible in its entirety. You know, us knuckledraggers who just aren't "enlightened" enough to be lieberals yet.


24 posted on 02/05/2007 1:09:03 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked)
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This is insanity. Pure and simple.


29 posted on 02/05/2007 2:06:39 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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Please repost this evening. This is astonishing.


30 posted on 02/05/2007 2:08:14 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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In return Weaver is looking to have NEA members placed on boards of deacons and elders (the church ruling bodies) and to have them lobby Congress and other legislatures with the NEA to get more money and power.

So I suppose we're not to put men of great faith and service on our elder boards anymore, but rather only those that fit a union agenda. Unbelievable.

34 posted on 02/05/2007 5:27:42 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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"Many of you in your pulpits, sometimes your greatest detractors may be your board of trustees or your deacons," Weaver addressed ministers.

Yup. That's the problem in the liberal churces, alright -- all those uppity people in the pews, especially the trustees and deacons. Just get rid of the laity, except for their money of course, and let the clergy concentrate full time on politics. That's the ticket.

36 posted on 02/05/2007 6:16:54 PM PST by sphinx
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This is establishing the foundation of the NWO which is Islamo-fascist leaning humanism.


37 posted on 02/05/2007 6:30:28 PM PST by Biblebelter
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