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Colts' coach more proud of Christ than 'blackness'
World Net Daily ^ | 2/5/07 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 02/05/2007 9:33:13 AM PST by Patriot28

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To: indylindy

That might be....but that's not what he said. My point was the headline was disingenuous. I don't like the media interpreting for me, that's all.


101 posted on 02/05/2007 10:46:09 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: presently no screen name
he didn't say that - he said 'first African Americans' - only once. He didn't emphasize it like you do.

Tony Dungy: I'll tell you what. I'm proud to be representing African-American coaches, to be the first African-American to win this. It means an awful lot to our country. But again, more than anything, I've said it before, Lovie Smith and I, not only the first two African-Americans, but Christian coaches showing that you can win doing it the Lord's way. And we're more proud of that.

102 posted on 02/05/2007 10:49:01 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: Hildy

Thats okay. If you are not religious I suppose it offends you. Thats just Tony Dungy and he's not ashamed of it..But the title is not the exact words, the sentiment of it is.


103 posted on 02/05/2007 10:49:19 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Hildy
Tony Dungy: I'll tell you what. I'm proud to be representing African-American coaches, to be the first African-American to win this. It means an awful lot to our country. But again, more than anything, I've said it before, Lovie Smith and I, not only the first two African-Americans, but Christian coaches showing that you can win doing it the Lord's way. And we're more proud of that.

Word Count:

African-American = 3
The Lord = 1
Christian = 1

104 posted on 02/05/2007 10:50:36 AM PST by jdm
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To: indylindy

NO, it doesn't offend me one bit...and I'm Jewish..what offends me is the media, ANY MEDIA, interpeting the news for me.


105 posted on 02/05/2007 10:50:42 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: Hildy

Okay.


106 posted on 02/05/2007 10:51:53 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: lilylangtree

"waiting for the ACLU to get into the act"
to bend an old Mort Sahl joke, the ACLU is going to sue both coaches for not having any Muslims on their staffs.
(Sahl said about 45 years ago, that he got a call from the
NAACP wanting to know why he didn't have any blacks in his act.--actually the only funny thing he ever said)


107 posted on 02/05/2007 10:52:15 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: Hildy
Dungy says "But again, more than anything, I've said it before, Lovie Smith and I, not only the first two African-Americans, but Christian coaches showing that you can win doing it the Lord's way. And we're more proud of that."

The man is CLEARLY stating that he's more proud to be Christian than black.

why does he have to have ANY label put upon him.

You make this statement after repeatly denying that he put his faith ahead of his skin color. Why can't we put the Christian label on this man? Clearly he is going out of his way in his interviews with the press to state such.

108 posted on 02/05/2007 10:54:21 AM PST by Diplomat
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To: Diplomat
The man is CLEARLY stating that he's more proud to be Christian than black.

I believe it's clear in YOUR head, but that's not what he said.

109 posted on 02/05/2007 10:56:13 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: Hildy

Your post is extremely disingenous. Tony Dungy did indeed say he was more proud of being Christian than being the first black coach to win.

Why is pointing out that this fine man can look past color to Christ, who is indeed color-blind, "twisting it to look ugly".

I know you're not Christian, but being more proud of Christian than being black is definitely NOT ugly!!!!!


110 posted on 02/05/2007 10:57:08 AM PST by GatorGirl
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To: Hildy
Reminder - more proud than being the FIRST FIRST FIRST African Americans

You deny your own emphasis on the coach's statement?
111 posted on 02/05/2007 10:57:25 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Patriot28

Wow. My opinion of him just went way up. Way to go, Coach!


112 posted on 02/05/2007 10:57:39 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Every time a jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Hildy
I think the title of the article reflects what Coach Dungy intended.

First, he answered the question then he used a transition, which is a rhetorical device you see public speakers use to "get on message." The transition was "But again, more than anything."

You also have to look at the context of the message he transitioned to. Coach Dungy knew this message would be, to some extent, unwelcome.

The next rhetorical device Coach Dungy used is repetition. He concluded his statement with "And we're more proud of that." To stay on message you need to state the message ans then restate it.

The message is clear to me - Coach Dungy is more "proud" of his relationship with God than his accomplishment viewed in the context of his skin color.

113 posted on 02/05/2007 10:57:46 AM PST by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: Patriot28

I was so happy to hear and see this. Faith in God is our foundation.


114 posted on 02/05/2007 11:00:09 AM PST by freekitty
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To: Hildy

My interpretation is the same as every other poster on this thread but you. I guess "More" means "less" in Hildy world.


115 posted on 02/05/2007 11:02:53 AM PST by Diplomat
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To: BMIC
The MSM isn't there yet -white or black - but Smith and Dungy ARE.

Absolutely! That's what made their responses to these questions so refreshing. They didn't get where they are by political correctness -- they got where they are by the quality of their character, irrespective of the color of their skin. THAT is the real story.

116 posted on 02/05/2007 11:03:30 AM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: frithguild

Whatever...obviously you guys need this in your corner more than I need to argue the intent.


117 posted on 02/05/2007 11:04:07 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: Patriot28


Tony Dungy: I'll tell you what. I'm proud to be representing African-American coaches, to be the first African-American to win this. It means an awful lot to our country. But again, more than anything, I've said it before, Lovie Smith and I, not only the first two African-Americans, but Christian coaches showing that you can win doing it the Lord's way. And we're more proud of that.

What a beautiful statement. A great roll model in the sports world. Hope it rubs off on others.
118 posted on 02/05/2007 11:05:25 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: Hildy

Do you think Coacg Dungy's intended to express that he was more proud of something other than his relationship with Godt when he transitioned and stayed on an unwelcomed message?


119 posted on 02/05/2007 11:08:32 AM PST by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: garv

Hmmm...didn't know that. I hope you are right. Kudos to him if that is the case.


120 posted on 02/05/2007 11:11:45 AM PST by Obadiah
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