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1 posted on 02/05/2007 1:57:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Cincy, I don't have the link handy, but a few years ago our Canadian cousins were set to sink a billion dollars into a wind farm near one of their big cities.

All the usual blather about "protecting the environment" and "renewable energy"-- then some spoilsport pointed out that for one-fifth of the money, they could generate the same amount of power with a conventional plant.

And not be subject to the vagarities of the wind...

Don't know what ever became of it- one could hope common sense prevailed, and they spent their money on 5 conventional plants...

2 posted on 02/05/2007 2:05:41 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Not long ago, Mrs Ivan and I went to a local DIY store to pick up some paint; we found that they were selling wind turbines. I was fascinated - it had a huge propeller, looked ridiculous and the sign suggested one could assemble it at home.

No thank you. I'm not going to besmirch an 18th century house with one of these. I can't imagine anyone else looking at it and not thinking it would be an eyesore.

Regards, Ivan

3 posted on 02/05/2007 2:09:00 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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I was down in Abilene recently and what used to be an empty pass south of town, Buffalo Gap, is now studded with these enormous wind turbines all over it. One is right beside the road. You just don't realize just how BIG the things are until you are up beside one.

The turbines are so large they show up well on Google Maps.

Link here

6 posted on 02/05/2007 2:19:13 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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The color of the paint on the neighbors' house is visually overpowering. We need to force them to change it. I don't like the color of their car, either. Those colors are lowering the value of my place. The color of paint is actually regulated in some HOAs and counties. One HOA that I know of does not allow white or other reflective paint jobs (only nature colors allowed--dark brown, for example).

[Little sarcasm and irony there.]

Are PV panels any prettier? Some people are off of the power grid and in windy places. Others are off of the power grid in sunny places. Some people have much wind and sun. Busybodies who claim to be environmentalists are trying to stop people in places off of the grid from generating their own power. The false enviornmentalist busybodies are doing so for the purpose of devaluing and buying the properties of others cheap to make way for their big developer friends.

If you want to regulate all of the scenery around you, buy property all the way to the horizon, IMO. If you don't own it, don't try to control it.


13 posted on 02/05/2007 2:40:01 AM PST by familyop
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Royalties paid to ranchers in the Abilene area average about $12,000 per turbine per year, according to testimony in a lawsuit there.

In my current financial position, I’d welcome a dozen of them.

15 posted on 02/05/2007 2:43:54 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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NIMBY. Nobody wants energy generation, but everybody wants the lights to come on when you flip the switch. We should be building nuke plants, and be done with it.


24 posted on 02/05/2007 3:45:40 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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what about the economics of these things?

how much natural gas, is not burnt?


37 posted on 02/05/2007 4:21:54 AM PST by greasepaint
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I kind of enjoy the break in monotany the ones out in West Texas, off I-10, provide. You can see them for miles and there are very few people for them to bother.


They sell wind power kits for home use. They are much smaller than these mentioned.


40 posted on 02/05/2007 4:33:05 AM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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ranchers in the Abilene area average about $12,000 per turbine per year,

They also generate revenue for the Towns, Counties, and School Districts located off the beaten path usually in rural areas where its needed most.

48 posted on 02/05/2007 5:02:09 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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I'm sure the people who are opposed to wind farms, oil, coal and gas are in favor of the only reasonable alternative, nuclear power.


49 posted on 02/05/2007 5:03:39 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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I am no friend of wind generators and in fact prefer to go nuclear, but IMHO people's reaction to these things is just a little hypocritical.

No one ever complained about all those water well windmills all over the great plains, as a matter of fact artist's are forever painting them and tourists admiring them. No one has complained about those oil pumps all over the place. Few complain about the feed lots that stink up large areas of the west. No one complains about the giant steel towers that support the wires that convey electricity all over the country.

We have just gotten to be too prissy for our on good. I guess we deserve to be dependent upon, enriching and begging for oil, from people who despise us.


50 posted on 02/05/2007 5:07:26 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Democrats: Too dumb to lead, too vain to follow, too rude to get the hell out of the way!)
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"Windfarms will spoil the Texas scenery! Waaaaaah!
There's scenery in Texas?
55 posted on 02/05/2007 5:19:02 AM PST by BlazingArizona (co)
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One of the big lies about wind and solar power is that when the goevernment "dictates" a certain percentage of a region's power come from these sources, the power companies are required to provide backup from conventional sources.

You know, the wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine.

Thus, we have environmenatalism by fiat.
Thou shalt provide 5% of your power from "renewable sources", irrespective of whether it's possible.


61 posted on 02/05/2007 5:30:30 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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"Trey Cox, a Dallas attorney representing FPL Energy, said claims of ugliness have little legal support in Texas law. 'Texas is very much a landowner's rights state,' he said. 'We don't want neighbors fussing over what things look like. ... As long as you're not doing anything illegal, if you want to have a broken-down barn or paint your house pink, you get to do it.'"

I grew up in Texas. While driving through any of most of the State (except the extreme west, around Edwards Plateau), the eyes will latch onto any broken-down barn, a pink house or windmill for the purpose of continuing sanity. Compared to most of Texas, any part of Kansas is eye candy.
66 posted on 02/05/2007 5:41:05 AM PST by familyop
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Get rid of those wind turbines! I think the cooling towers of a nuclear plant would be a lot more attractive there!

Mark


68 posted on 02/05/2007 5:47:47 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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They are ugly and I'd prefer nuclear or fossil fueled plants. I have driven past the one outside Twenty Nine Palms, CA and it is a formidible site - like a James Bond villain's lair. There is a wind farm here in Oklahoma too, on 1-40 near Weatherford. All the lights blink in unison. Kind of scary - like the windmills have developed some collective intelligence and are planning their next move.


73 posted on 02/05/2007 6:09:55 AM PST by Puddleglum
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Oooooh. They finally noticed?

Lets build reactors instead!


75 posted on 02/05/2007 6:13:27 AM PST by Little Ray
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I hope this doesn't surprise anyone.


78 posted on 02/05/2007 6:57:22 AM PST by gogeo
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The trouble with wind farms is you still need all the conventional generating capacity they were supposed to replace.

The wind doesn't blow every day, but everyone wants their lights on every day.
80 posted on 02/05/2007 7:19:05 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Well this suit won't be going anywhere. Texas has some of the strongest property rights laws in the nation.

Of course people might decide to settle this outside the courtroom. It's never a good idea to piss off all of your neighbors.

83 posted on 02/05/2007 7:34:29 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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