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KGB INTENT ON LINKING PIUS XII WITH NAZIS
CATHOLIC NEWS AGENCY ^ | 1/26/2007 | CATHOLIC NEWS

Posted on 02/04/2007 9:00:31 PM PST by Dqban22

Pius XII and WWII

KGB intent on linking Pius XII with Nazis, says former spy

Washington DC, Jan 26, 2007 / 04:18 pm (CNA).- A former high-ranking officer with the KGB claims that the Kremlin and the Russian intelligence agency in the 1960s were set on executing a smear campaign against the Catholic Church, and the main target was Pope Pius XII.

In a recent issue of the National Review Online, Lt. General Ion Mihai Pacepa, who eventually defected from the former Soviet bloc, recounts how the KGB and the Kremlin designed the deliberate campaign to portray the Pius XII “as a coldhearted Nazi sympathizer.”

“In February 1960, Nikita Khrushchev approved a super-secret plan for destroying the Vatican’s moral authority in Western Europe,” writes Pacepa. “Eugenio Pacelli, by then Pope Pius XII, was selected as the KGB’s main target, its incarnation of evil, because he had departed this world in 1958. ‘Dead men cannot defend themselves’ was the KGB’s latest slogan.”

The code name for this operation against Pope Pius XII was “Seat-12.”

The KGB used the fact that Archbishop Pacelli had served as the papal nuncio in Munich and Berlin when the Nazis were beginning their bid for power against him. “The KGB wanted to depict him as an anti-Semite who had encouraged Hitler’s Holocaust,” says Pacepa.

To do this, the KGB wanted some original Vatican documents to “slightly modify”. So they called in Pacepa, who was working for the Romanian intelligence service.

Pacepa says he became the Romanian point man. He was authorized to falsely inform the Vatican that Romania was ready to restore its broken relations with the Holy See, in exchange for access to its archives — in order to find historical roots that would help the Romanian government publicly justify its change of heart toward the Holy See — and a one-billion-dollar, interest-free loan for 25 years.

Between 1960 and 1962, the Romanian spy sent hundreds of archival documents connected in any way with Pope Pius XII to the KGB. Pacepa says none of the documents were incriminating in themselves, but they were sent to the KGB in any case.

The KGB used these documents to produce a powerful play attacking Pope Pius XII, entitled The Deputy. It eventually saw the stage in Germany in 1963, under the title The Deputy, a Christian Tragedy. It proposed that Pius XII had supported Hitler and encouraged him to go ahead with the Jewish Holocaust. The German director claimed to have 40 pages of documentation attached to the script that would support the thesis of the play.

The play ran in New York in 1964 and was translated into 20 languages. The play then led to a flurry of books and articles, some accusing and some defending the pontiff.

“Today, many people who have never heard of The Deputy are sincerely convinced that Pius XII was a cold and evil man who hated the Jews and helped Hitler do away with them,” Pacepa writes in the National Review Online. “As KGB chairman Yury Andropov, the unparalleled master of Soviet deception, used to tell me, people are more ready to believe smut than holiness.”

Pacepa says the truth has finally begun to emerge with the canonization process of Pius XII, which was opened by Pope John Paul II.

“Witnesses from all over the world have compellingly proved that Pius XII was an enemy, not a friend, of Hitler,” says Pacepa.

He also refers to the book The Myth of Hitler’s Pope: How Pope Pius XII Rescued Jews From the Nazis, by David G. Dalin, which has compiled further proof of Archbishop Pacelli’s friendship for the Jews.

“At the start of World War II, Pope Pius XII’s first encyclical was so anti-Hitler that the Royal Air Force and the French air force dropped 88,000 copies of it over Germany,” he concludes.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: catholic; holocaust; kgb; nazis; piusxii; putin; russia; sovietunion
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To: DainBramage; Mrs. Don-o

DB: Great screenname! Nonetheless, the feeling is certainly mutual.


101 posted on 02/06/2007 12:29:39 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: klossg
"We declare ,say, define and pronounce that it is absolutely necssary for salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff" Pope Bonitace VIII Unim Sanctum 1302

This statement is wrong in itself. Its not biblical in the least. As if Peter were the only disciple or apostle! Based soley on twisting "on this rock I will build my church". Jesus never said no man can come to the father but through the pontiff then to me then to the father.

Look I understand you are so wrapped up in the religion of Catholicism to admit its errors in the past or present. That it can be infallible just because it declares it so. I dont believe that nor ever will. My original statements are true. The collaboration of Polish priests is well documented. The church should be more forthcoming with the truth.

102 posted on 02/06/2007 12:43:12 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: BlackElk
We are saved by grace alone. Nothing that we can do is worthy of salvation. It is a gift from God that we are not worthy of, hence grace.

We are justified through faith alone. Like Pope Clement wrote, we "are not justified through ourselves or through our own wisdom or understanding or piety or works which we wrought in holiness of heart, but through faith." Our works are a result, not a prerequisite.

And then scripture alone... I follow an apostolic church, a church founded by the apostles. I hold to the spoken and written words of the apostles. Since the apostles are all dead, I only have their words. Interestingly enough, I use the same verse that the RCC uses to support oral tradition. The apostles preached everything in public, there are no secret teachings.

But I guess you were just trying to be funny...
103 posted on 02/06/2007 12:44:24 PM PST by Tao Yin
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To: BlackElk

What insult have I made than to question the infallibility of the Pope.


104 posted on 02/06/2007 12:44:52 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: Dqban22

ping for later...Pius XII was my great-grandfather's cousin. I'll be back later...and by the way, your sins are absolved. I think I can do that...:0)


105 posted on 02/06/2007 12:45:47 PM PST by KsSunflower
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To: DainBramage
My salvation is not found through the Catholic church nor Rome.

This is all relative to your point of view. If you want to take things the way you take them, then go ahead. I cannot crawl inside your head and make it so. Christ can do something like that, but not me, nor the Catholic Church. I put my faith in Christ and that leads me to Rome and Rome in turn leads me closer to Jesus Christ. I meet Christ in the Catholic Church ... and I continue to meet Him.

You are bright. I am bright. We both have the same world, with the same graces and the same references available. No one, not even the Pope is going to force you to see things in a certain way. And as Paul says "there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit" 1 Cor 12:12. Should I attack you my brother who has different gifts of the Spirit? Should I squabble like the Corinthians or look to Christ and those who have gone before me in the Spirit of Christ? Something like this is relative to my point of view and surely Christ doesn't only revolve around me and not you. Or does he only revolve around you and your understanding?

Your salvation is through Christ, just like my salvation is through Christ. If you see my Church as a hold a gun to your head kind of Church, then I am sure you will continue to ask your above question until you are dead. Just know that I have never been forced to believe anything. My faith evolves, like yours. When the Church releases a new document or clarifies a teaching, I take it in and see what I can get out of it. Sometimes it hits me right in the soul. Other times I barely get it. But, I know the Church is not there to screw with me. Only there to help me get closer to Jesus Christ.
106 posted on 02/06/2007 12:46:41 PM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: DainBramage
My original statements are true. The collaboration of Polish priests is well documented.

It must be so then. Pope Pius XII was Hitler's pope and wanted to kill Jews, even though we have the testimony of a former KGB that it was a Soviet Union KGB led conspiracy. Is this a man-law? Or do we need Terry Bradshaw?
107 posted on 02/06/2007 12:52:17 PM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: klossg

Finally something I understand.


108 posted on 02/06/2007 12:54:04 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: klossg

I didnt say the Pope was Hitlers Pope. I said Polish priests collaborated. A bishop just stepped down and admited it!. That was it. How far fetched could it be that others did?


109 posted on 02/06/2007 12:57:00 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage
That was it.

You slashed and burned my Church, my beliefs and the grace of infallibility as if it is bubble gum Christianity. Then you want me to agree to your no evidence statements. Come on. As if non-Catholic Christians did nothing in the Holocaust. As if only Catholics have ever been involved in atrocities.

Still, you seem like a nice guy, beyond all this. Maybe you should take your non-evidence and not throw any more stones. I could live in peace with that.
110 posted on 02/06/2007 1:06:47 PM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: BlackElk
>>>>>>Jesus Christ founded the Roman Catholic Church and guaranteed to be with it to the very end. <<<<<<

Roman Catholic Church in A.D. 29? You have been misinformed.

From Catholic Encyclopedia about the early Church

For a thousand years the Church was one. Five historic Patriarchal centers Jerusalem, Antioch, Rome, Alexandria, and Constantinople formed a cohesive whole and were in full communion with each other.

If you freely interpret the basic historical facts known to all mankind for two millenia, I am not at all surprised with your interpretation of little known facts about genocide in Croatia.

The history of The Church is established fact.

111 posted on 02/06/2007 1:37:42 PM PST by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !!!)
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To: Dqban22

Well, well, well. I guess our friend, David Cornwell, had exceptionally good "sources" after all....


112 posted on 02/06/2007 1:39:42 PM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: BlackElk
>>>>>Is "fuehrer" a Croatian title or just Serbian propaganda? <<<<<<

Croatian word was POGLAVNIK. There was no such word in Croatian dictionary prior to Ante Pavelic. It means loosely translated "one at the head (i.e. at the helm), The leader.

This was an official title.

The official title of Adolph Hitler was Fuehrer, The leder.

Titles of Adolph Hitler and Ante Pavelic were identical. (Benito Mussolini was "Il Duce", from Italian Duca (Duke)

113 posted on 02/06/2007 1:52:06 PM PST by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !!!)
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To: BlackElk
The rest will follow by the end. Note that neither the Roman Empire, nor the third reich nor the soviet union are any longer among the existing regimes on earth. It was in all the bibles.

Nor the Holy Roman Empire, the First French Republic, the Napoleonic empire, the Ottoman Empire, or any of the other great states and trans-national empires which have attempted to destroy the Catholic Church at one time or another.
114 posted on 02/06/2007 1:52:22 PM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: DainBramage; All
DainBramage,
Perhaps you should read about all the many,many, good things that Catholics did during the Holocaust.

Here is a couple of links from the Holy Cross Collection
http://www.holycross.edu/departments/history/vlapomar/hiatt/hiatt.htm


http://www.holycross.edu/departments/history/vlapomar/hiatt/catholic.htm

CATHOLICS AND THE HOLOCAUST
(People have asked about the number of Catholics who died because of the
Nazis. The site on the Nuremberg Trials came up with the number of 42,000,000
for Christian victims of the Nazis. Since most of those were Roman Catholics,
one can gather that the number was at least quite overwhelming.)
115 posted on 02/06/2007 1:56:20 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: DainBramage
My salvation is not found through the Catholic church nor Rome.

I guess all that "Keys to the Kingdom/binding and loosing," stuff doesn't apply to you then, eh?
116 posted on 02/06/2007 1:56:42 PM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: BlackElk
>>>>>>2. You do realize that you are accusing the notoriously lefist Ninth Circus Court of Appeals of being an actual court as though it would recognize the "rule of law" if the "rule of law" jumped up and bit the judges of the Ninth Circus? What on earth is the basis of the Ninth Circus or any other American court over allegations of misbehavior in the Balkans by non-Americans against non-Americans more than 60 years ago????<<<<<

Claim was filed by American citizens who suffered under Ustasha regime or who are survivors of Ustasha genocide. There are numerous legal precedents for that.

117 posted on 02/06/2007 1:57:23 PM PST by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !!!)
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To: DTA
For a thousand years the Church was one. Five historic Patriarchal centers Jerusalem, Antioch, Rome, Alexandria, and Constantinople formed a cohesive whole and were in full communion with each other.

Huh? Do you really know anything about Church history? Look up the Acacian Schism (for starters) and get back to me. From there, look up the terms "Donatist, Arian, Monophysite, Eutychian, Nestorian, and Iconoclast." After you've done all that, come back and make that same statement if you can.

The fact that the Catholic and Orthodox Churches (the two lungs of Christendom) are as large and as strong as they are today, despite centuries of human frailty, arrogance, pride, and division, is a miracle in and of itself.
118 posted on 02/06/2007 2:02:42 PM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: DainBramage; klossg; SuzyQ; wequalswinner
I don't know if that statement is "infallible in form," but it is true --- in the sense that it was intended.

And how do I know how it was intended?

(1) When Christ established the primacy of Peter and his successors (Matthew 16 --- and the whole chapter rewards careful reading, if you're interested) He gives Simon Bar-Jonah the name "Rock," explains the meaning of "Rock," and gives him the power of the Keys (in fulfillment of the prophecy to Isaiah to Eliakim in Isaiah 22:22, a chapter also worth reading in its entirety, since it shows how the "Keys" symbolize suzereignty: the authority to rule.) This was upon Peter's declaration that Jesus is the Christ: a statement of doctrine.

Within 2 minutes' time, Peter goes from formulating a truth of the Faith in the midst of the Twelve, to voicing his own preferences and weaknesses (saying that, in his view, Christ should never suffer), at which time Jesus calls him "you Satan." So: when defining doctrine, and especially speaking for the Twelve, Peter has authority; when giving his opinion, he's as likely to be a dumbass as the rest of us.

(2) In reference to Unam Sanctam, the pope is making the point that as Christ's Vicar he is not to be a vassal of the King of France; later on, when King Philip the Fair questioned the extent of the pope's claims, Pope Clement V clarified that the French king was not made subject to the authority of the Roman Church except inasmuch as the Pope conserves and hands on God's moral law, upon which the law of man must have its foundation.

(3) A certain Fr. Leonard Feeney tried to assert, in a contrary sense, that no one but a visible (dues-paying, pew-sitting) member of the Catholic Church ---- and thus an ecclesiatical subject of the Pope ---could be saved. He was in error; and for obstinacy in this error, he was excommunicated.

That should make clearer both the meaning and the limits of "Unam Sanctam."

119 posted on 02/06/2007 2:11:17 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Pleased to be of service.)
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To: Antoninus

It would be much better that you responded to "Jesus Christ founded the Roman Catholic Church" instead of me. Your clarification and addition is welcomed.


120 posted on 02/06/2007 2:12:09 PM PST by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !!!)
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