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BBC: Concrete 'to stem Java mud flow' ~~ An attempt to stop flow of Mud from deep underground ...
BBC ^ | Friday, 2 February 2007, 15:10 GMT | BBC Staff

Posted on 02/03/2007 2:12:35 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 02/05/2007 6:01:59 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Concrete 'to stem Java mud flow'

Mud (Durham University)

The mud flow has been relentless

A plan to drop concrete balls into the mouth of a "mud volcano" in East Java to stem its flow should go into action next week, Indonesian scientists say.

Hot mud and gas have been spewing out of the ground since May 2006; experts warn the torrent could continue for months, if not years, to come.

But the government-approved scheme could halt the flow within two to three months, the team behind the plan says.

Other geophysicists said it was a "long shot", but "could be worth a try".

Dr Umar Fauzi, who developed the idea with a team at the Bandung Institute of Technology, told the BBC News website the work was due to begin on 7 February, following approval from the government and the team managing the disaster.

Engineers will drop 1,000 1.5m-long metal chains into the mouth of the mud leak. Each chain has four concrete balls suspended from it; two with a 20cm diameter and two with a 40cm diameter.

They will begin slowly, Dr Fauzi explained; perhaps dropping five to 10 chains on the first day, then slowly increasing the number until they insert up to 50 chains per day.

Company blamed

"We aim to lower the chains deep down into the neck of the crater," he said. "This will not plug the volcano, but will force the mud to flow around the chain-balls, decreasing the mud's energy and slowing its flow."

Dr Bagus Nurhandoko, who helped develop the scheme, told Nature magazine: "It will make the mud tired. We're killing the mud softly."

The team is uncertain exactly how long stemming the flow could take.

Map (BBC)

"We will monitor the reaction of the volcano as we progress," he told BBC News. "How long it will take to stop the flow depends on the reaction, but we think it will take maybe two to three months."

The disaster, which began on 29 May 2006 in the Porong subdistrict of Sidoarjo in Eastern Java, close to Indonesia's second city of Surabaya, is thought to have been triggered by the drilling work of gas prospectors PT Lapindo Brantas.

The event has forced many thousand from their homes.

The Indonesian government has been working to halt the mud with a network of dams and by channelling some of it into the sea, but with little success so far.

The cost of this new scheme is estimated at 3 billion rupiah ($330,800); a government spokesman said PT Lapindo Brantas would pay the cost.

The concrete balls method would cost less than other proposed schemes to halt the mud volcano, Dr Fauzi said.

Brian Simpson, an engineer from Arup Geotechnics, said the plan was a "long shot" and would have to overcome many difficulties.

One of the problems, he said, was by slowing the mud down, you would inevitably create pressure, and this pressure could dislodge the blockage or force open another path.

"However, saying that, when swallow holes or pipes form in dams, it is quite a normal procedure to throw in some fairly coarse material to gradually dam it up," he explained.

What it might do, he added, would be to buy the Indonesian authorities some time to create a more effective and final solution.

"However, now this volcano has been flowing for so long it is going to be extremely difficult to stop, but this scheme is probably worth a try, although I doubt it will work," he said.

Professor Richard Davies, of the Department of Earth Sciences at Durham University, said: "This is completely unchartered territory - nobody has ever done this before. There is a possibility that the pressure may build, forcing open other vents, possibly exacerbating the situation."

Dr Mads Huuse, a geophysicist at the University of Aberdeen, said: "I don't think this idea has ever been tried before.

"If the mud doesn't just whirl straight past these balls, it could work.

"We think this is a man-made volcano caused by the drilling, and it could really go on for a very long while. Already 10,000-11,000 people are homeless," he added.

"It would be wonderful for them if this works."



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: indonesia; javamudvolcano; volcano
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To: ozzymandus
I just finished reading a book about Krakatoa. Plugging up a venting volcano seems pretty stupid to me.

There's no lava involved in this. Not a true volcano, but essentially a drilling accident.

61 posted on 02/03/2007 5:22:40 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: mewzilla

The earthquake wasn't anywhere near this mud volcano.

And it's pretty clear this was a result of human drilling activity.


62 posted on 02/03/2007 5:23:31 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: TexasTransplant
TexasTransplant wrote: "My Wife is from the Philippines and her immediate reaction was "Can't they sell the mud?""

My thoughts exactly!
When you have lemons, you make lemonade.
When you have mud, make bricks.

Then again, if this works, we might be able to use the technique to control the flow of the Missisippi this spring.

An Old Man

63 posted on 02/03/2007 5:37:24 PM PST by An Old Man (Socialism is a tool designed to "socialize" (i.e., confiscate, not create) wealth)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

ROFL!


64 posted on 02/03/2007 5:50:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Hilarious!
65 posted on 02/03/2007 5:52:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: TexasTransplant

You are a lucky guy!


66 posted on 02/03/2007 5:55:03 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: An Old Man
>>>>>"use the technique to control the flow of the Mississippi this spring"<<<<<

If you are near or South of New Orleans it would be a Great Idea, (Visionary?) instead of fighting Mother Nature work with her, there is so much flat land marsh around there that they will never reclaim as dry land... why not raise algae for bio diesel? You have water, flat inexpensive land, plenty of sunlight, plenty of nutrients from the Mississippi River and a real purpose for a land that has none now. Problem is that Louisiana doesn't have Leaders with Vision or Plans or any Future at all, all they are is Money Grubbing Politicians looking for the next Federal Handout and they will Lambaste or Pimp themselves or Whore themselves to the closest MSM Camera or Reporter for any spare nickels the FED may send there way.

(IF you can't tell, I really despise Louisiana Government/Politics)

DELETE NEXT 4 PARAGRAPHS OF RANT

TT
67 posted on 02/03/2007 6:42:11 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

>>>>>"You are a lucky guy!"<<<<<<

Luck had nothing to do with it, she made her mind up and once that happens...

TT


68 posted on 02/03/2007 6:47:11 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Strategerist

Rumor from the oil patch is the earthquake theory is being floated to explain the event and therefore limit the liability of the operating company (who is owned by a politically connected wealthy family there) - "act of God"...


69 posted on 02/03/2007 7:50:12 PM PST by Grimas
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To: IncPen; BartMan1

ping,, reads like a dimestore novel


71 posted on 02/04/2007 10:27:40 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Wow.


72 posted on 02/05/2007 4:44:09 AM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; JimWforBush; The SISU kid; lump in the melting pot; Wilhelm Tell; sauropod; ...

Civil Engineers ping

Let me know if you want on or of the list

Also, see post #70, very interesting.


73 posted on 02/05/2007 5:07:24 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: patton

Pretty wild!


74 posted on 02/05/2007 5:07:58 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Hot mud and gas have been spewing out of the ground since May 2006; experts warn the torrent could continue for months, if not years, to come.

That's no big deal. Hot mud, hot air, and gas have been spewing out of the mouths of the DNC for decades.

75 posted on 02/05/2007 5:59:58 AM PST by VRWCmember (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Too bad you felt you needed to drop the F bomb in an otherwise informative post.


76 posted on 02/05/2007 6:07:59 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

My error. Didn't see that, even after spell checking my source's text.

Sorry.


77 posted on 02/05/2007 6:24:39 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Admin Moderator; Robert A. Cook, PE

To be fair, it was the authors text, not robt's language.

Robt, please repost with appropriae edit.


78 posted on 02/05/2007 6:29:34 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; golfisnr1
1.5m-long metal chains...Each chain has four concrete balls suspended from it;

That was called chain shot during the old sailing ship days.

79 posted on 02/05/2007 6:30:59 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: FreePaul

That would have been wicked!


80 posted on 02/05/2007 7:11:03 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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