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BBC: Concrete 'to stem Java mud flow' ~~ An attempt to stop flow of Mud from deep underground ...
BBC ^ | Friday, 2 February 2007, 15:10 GMT | BBC Staff

Posted on 02/03/2007 2:12:35 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 02/05/2007 6:01:59 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Concrete 'to stem Java mud flow'

Mud (Durham University)

The mud flow has been relentless

A plan to drop concrete balls into the mouth of a "mud volcano" in East Java to stem its flow should go into action next week, Indonesian scientists say.

Hot mud and gas have been spewing out of the ground since May 2006; experts warn the torrent could continue for months, if not years, to come.

But the government-approved scheme could halt the flow within two to three months, the team behind the plan says.

Other geophysicists said it was a "long shot", but "could be worth a try".

Dr Umar Fauzi, who developed the idea with a team at the Bandung Institute of Technology, told the BBC News website the work was due to begin on 7 February, following approval from the government and the team managing the disaster.

Engineers will drop 1,000 1.5m-long metal chains into the mouth of the mud leak. Each chain has four concrete balls suspended from it; two with a 20cm diameter and two with a 40cm diameter.

They will begin slowly, Dr Fauzi explained; perhaps dropping five to 10 chains on the first day, then slowly increasing the number until they insert up to 50 chains per day.

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"We aim to lower the chains deep down into the neck of the crater," he said. "This will not plug the volcano, but will force the mud to flow around the chain-balls, decreasing the mud's energy and slowing its flow."

Dr Bagus Nurhandoko, who helped develop the scheme, told Nature magazine: "It will make the mud tired. We're killing the mud softly."

The team is uncertain exactly how long stemming the flow could take.

Map (BBC)

"We will monitor the reaction of the volcano as we progress," he told BBC News. "How long it will take to stop the flow depends on the reaction, but we think it will take maybe two to three months."

The disaster, which began on 29 May 2006 in the Porong subdistrict of Sidoarjo in Eastern Java, close to Indonesia's second city of Surabaya, is thought to have been triggered by the drilling work of gas prospectors PT Lapindo Brantas.

The event has forced many thousand from their homes.

The Indonesian government has been working to halt the mud with a network of dams and by channelling some of it into the sea, but with little success so far.

The cost of this new scheme is estimated at 3 billion rupiah ($330,800); a government spokesman said PT Lapindo Brantas would pay the cost.

The concrete balls method would cost less than other proposed schemes to halt the mud volcano, Dr Fauzi said.

Brian Simpson, an engineer from Arup Geotechnics, said the plan was a "long shot" and would have to overcome many difficulties.

One of the problems, he said, was by slowing the mud down, you would inevitably create pressure, and this pressure could dislodge the blockage or force open another path.

"However, saying that, when swallow holes or pipes form in dams, it is quite a normal procedure to throw in some fairly coarse material to gradually dam it up," he explained.

What it might do, he added, would be to buy the Indonesian authorities some time to create a more effective and final solution.

"However, now this volcano has been flowing for so long it is going to be extremely difficult to stop, but this scheme is probably worth a try, although I doubt it will work," he said.

Professor Richard Davies, of the Department of Earth Sciences at Durham University, said: "This is completely unchartered territory - nobody has ever done this before. There is a possibility that the pressure may build, forcing open other vents, possibly exacerbating the situation."

Dr Mads Huuse, a geophysicist at the University of Aberdeen, said: "I don't think this idea has ever been tried before.

"If the mud doesn't just whirl straight past these balls, it could work.

"We think this is a man-made volcano caused by the drilling, and it could really go on for a very long while. Already 10,000-11,000 people are homeless," he added.

"It would be wonderful for them if this works."



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: indonesia; javamudvolcano; volcano
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I know it's terrible for the folks there, but it really looks like Elbonia, from a Dilbert series a few years ago. Everybody walked around in mud up to thier chest in Elbonia.


21 posted on 02/03/2007 2:29:24 PM PST by BRK
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To: Darksheare; cripplecreek
Killing it softly with their song?

I'm hunting for a download of the Metallica version.

22 posted on 02/03/2007 2:30:35 PM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Bad idea, George"

23 posted on 02/03/2007 2:31:12 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: GSlob

PADERBORN, GERMANY - Overzealous zookeeper Friedrich Riesfeldt fed his constipated elephant Stefan 22 doses of animal laxative and more than a bushel of berries, figs and prunes before the plugged-up pachyderm finally let fly-and suffocated the keeper under 200 pounds of poop. Investigators say ill-fated Friedrich, 46, was attempting to give the ailing elephant an olive-oil enema when the relieved beast unloaded on him like a dump truck full of mud.

"The sheer force of the elephant's unexpected defecation knocked Mr. Riesfeldt to the ground, where he struck his head on a rock and lay unconscious as the elephant continued to evacuate his bowels on top of him," said flabbergasted Paderborn police detective Erik Dern. "With no one there to help him, he lay under all that dung for at least an hour before a watchman came along, and during that time he suffocated. It seems to be just one of those freak accidents that happen sometimes -- a billion-to-one shot, at least."


24 posted on 02/03/2007 2:31:43 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (I don't have any reason to be cynical, but...)
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To: humblegunner

Owch, that'll hurt.


25 posted on 02/03/2007 2:32:17 PM PST by Darksheare (She had the face of a trucker. She used it as a purse.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

"The last time I saw the monkey he was trying to put the cork back in."


26 posted on 02/03/2007 2:32:28 PM PST by magslinger (I am NOT running for President, nor have I formed an exploratory committee)
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To: Smokey Joe
The comedians here are great, but ya got any thoughts?

Thanks

27 posted on 02/03/2007 2:35:01 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Yup, I think this idea could backfire on them....

badumbump


28 posted on 02/03/2007 2:36:09 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

It's really no different than killing a wild well here in America's oil patch, assuming they set casing at the surface. You drop enough stuff down the hole until it gives up.

I'm not sure why this one would be any different.


29 posted on 02/03/2007 2:36:13 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Humor - The International Volcanic Abatement Treaty - Sheldon Wimpfen
30 posted on 02/03/2007 2:36:29 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: investigateworld; Smokey Joe

Basically, the mud volcano is gonna build up pressure.
And when it finally goes, it'll go spectacularly.
Think something along the lines of flying killer mud and a couple of chains that were supposed to slow it down.

If it works without 'popping', I'll be surprised.


31 posted on 02/03/2007 2:36:36 PM PST by Darksheare (She had the face of a trucker. She used it as a purse.)
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To: Dog Gone
I'm not sure why this one would be any different.

The geothermal component?

32 posted on 02/03/2007 2:37:51 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We have had problems like this in tunneling, we used sodium silicate the stabilize the water bearing ground, works like a charm.

One bit of advise, solidify the ground AFTER it flows from underground, stopping the flow will result in a very abrupt and unpleasant release.
33 posted on 02/03/2007 2:37:59 PM PST by Rumplemeyer
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To: Rumplemeyer; Ernest_at_the_Beach

They don't have Imodium for mudcanos?


34 posted on 02/03/2007 2:40:57 PM PST by Darksheare (She had the face of a trucker. She used it as a purse.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Funny story, but per snopes.com, an urban legend
35 posted on 02/03/2007 2:41:35 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE

Chain shot at pyroclastic flow velocities.


36 posted on 02/03/2007 2:41:36 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: kinoxi

No chance of watching it from afar: My brother-in-law has been fighting this flow for months, and fighting corrupt Indonesian energy politicians even longer.

Those are the same groups that Clinton got paid-off by.


37 posted on 02/03/2007 2:43:35 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I'm wondering if the mudcano is in anyway related not to drilling, but to the lingering effects of the massive quake they had there "a year or three" back.


38 posted on 02/03/2007 2:44:59 PM PST by Darksheare (She had the face of a trucker. She used it as a purse.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This job calls for an expert! Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
39 posted on 02/03/2007 2:46:12 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I wonder if this is why the AMC channel has been showing Volcano, with Tommy Lee Jones & Carpetmuncher Heche, the past few days, restarting this very instant.
40 posted on 02/03/2007 2:46:30 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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