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No traders, no market as foreigners are sent packing
TimesOnline ^ | February 01, 2007 | Tony Halpin

Posted on 02/02/2007 10:42:55 PM PST by primeval patriot

Dmitri Konstantino from Moldova gestured glumly around him at the empty stalls in Moscow’s largest food market yesterday and asked: “So, where are all these Russians?”

His question is being repeated at markets across the country as an attempt to create jobs for Russians by imposing strict quotas on migrants appeared to have backfired. Two weeks after the Government introduced a law limiting nonRussians to 40 per cent of the workforce, Russia’s markets are emptying of traders as hundreds of thousands of foreigners are expelled.

Stalls run traditionally by people from Central Asia and the Caucasus are standing bare, as officials struggle to find Russians to take their places. The situation threatens to get worse from April, when the Government tightens the quota until all foreign traders are expelled by the end of the year.

Mr Konstantino, 63, has sold vegetables at the central Dorogomilova market for 15 years. He told The Times: “There won’t be any Russians coming here. They don’t want to do this work because it’s too hard. I’m up at 4 o’clock each morning to get my stall ready but they just want a nine-to-five life.” He said that he would return to Moldova if he is forced to leave later this year, adding: “What will happen to the market when we have all gone I don’t know.”

Valentina Stati, 50, a fruit-seller who is also from Moldova, said: “I feel sorry for our customers. They are all asking me what will happen when we go because they won’t be able to buy anything.” The measure was intended to create opportunities for Russian traders. Moscow city council estimates that 30,000 foreigners have been expelled from its markets so far, but admits that there is little sign of demand among Russians to replace them.

A third of stalls at the Cheryomushkinsky market in south-west Moscow are empty. The local administrator told the Moscow Times: “Not one Russian is knocking at the door.” The legislation was introduced after President Putin demanded action to protect the “native population” against “ethnic criminals” in response to growing racial tensions. His remarks followed a riot in the northern town of Kondopoga last summer in which residents drove out Chechen market traders.

The Government says that the measures will tackle illegal immigration involving an estimated ten million people. It argues that it has also made it easier for foreigners to register legally for work by providing six million permits for countries of the former Soviet Union. Human rights groups accuse the Government of pandering to xenophobia and stoking nationalism before parliamentary elections in December.

Immigration officials raid markets regularly to check the documents of darker-skinned workers.

The effects are being felt across Russia, particularly in the Far East, where thousands of Chinese and Vietnamese are reported to have packed up and gone home. Vladivostok’s central market was closed after most of its traders left and markets in Khabarovsk, near the Chinese border, have suffered a similar fate.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; gloomanddoom; illegals; immigrantlist; russia
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Sound familiar?

I don't believe the Russians are going to let themselves starve.

1 posted on 02/02/2007 10:42:59 PM PST by primeval patriot
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I wonder if Putin has put together an "exploratory committee" yet?


2 posted on 02/02/2007 10:51:38 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: primeval patriot

Apparently central planning didn't end with the Soviet Union.


3 posted on 02/02/2007 10:53:14 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: primeval patriot

Sorry to say, but this is what we would face in America were we to have a crack down on illegals.

And I'm not pro-illegals by any means.


4 posted on 02/02/2007 10:56:23 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Face what?


5 posted on 02/02/2007 10:57:33 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: primeval patriot

And they keep saying there is no way we can kick out that many illegals from the US - that it is physically impossible.


6 posted on 02/02/2007 11:07:47 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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The propaganda line is "we can't throw all of them out."

So why bother even trying.

7 posted on 02/02/2007 11:16:05 PM PST by primeval patriot
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This will provide a huge boost to Russia's worker productivity levels once the market sorts itself out. The short term pain of losing mom and pop stalls will create huge opportunities for American style supermarkets to open and expand in the region. As Russia's (native) population ages, and many of the young emigrate, economies of scale, by cutting out extremely inefficient wholesale and retail traditions such as fresh markets, is the way of Russia's future.

Once the customers of these closing flea markets experience the relative joys of a Super WalMart center, they'll soon forget about the Uzbeki migrant stall operator who lost his job.


8 posted on 02/02/2007 11:27:51 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: primeval patriot

That's just the way they like to do it; ready, fire, aim.....


9 posted on 02/02/2007 11:28:27 PM PST by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: primeval patriot

"Face what?"

A shortage of labor for jobs Americans are too lazy to do.


10 posted on 02/02/2007 11:33:28 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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A shortage of labor for jobs Americans are too lazy to do.

I take it you've never seen "Dirty Jobs".

There are no jobs Americans won't do if the price is right.

L

11 posted on 02/02/2007 11:36:03 PM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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A shortage of labor for jobs Americans are too lazy to do.

Sorry to see you think so little of your fellow Americans.

12 posted on 02/03/2007 12:02:07 AM PST by primeval patriot
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I would bet that there were never any markets until the foreigners showed up./s


13 posted on 02/03/2007 12:11:24 AM PST by jerry639
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It has never, ever in all of history, been a good time to be a Russian. Why they think that throwing out foreigners is a good idea, is beyond me. The Russki's are now, and always have been, a totally screwed up society. They need all the foreigners they can get. Someone's got to generate the loot that Russia relies on for graft.


14 posted on 02/03/2007 1:50:03 AM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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Its not that Americans are too lazy or won't do these jobs. In fact IMO about %80 of the jobs they claim that Americans won't do are not paying enough for people to have good standard of living. Why because businesses find it more profitable to hire someone they don't have to fill paperwork and pay taxes on. Its the businesses and people that are lazy and greedy.


15 posted on 02/03/2007 5:15:17 AM PST by Racer1
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It will take time before Russian traders return (after they were chased out by the gangs of undocumented immigrants).

The vacuum will be filled.

16 posted on 02/04/2007 9:32:21 AM PST by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: jim35; sergey1973; RusIvan; G. Stolyarov II; Romanov; annalex; Kolokotronis; Teófilo; x5452; ...
Why they think that throwing out foreigners is a good idea, is beyond me. The Russki's are now, and always have been, a totally screwed up society. They need all the foreigners they can get. Someone's got to generate the loot that Russia relies on for graft.

Quite a racist and hateful statement.

17 posted on 02/04/2007 9:38:02 AM PST by A. Pole (Gore:We are the most powerful force of nature.We are changing the relationship between Earth and Sun)
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To: primeval patriot

I think we have a few million illegals we can let them have.


18 posted on 02/04/2007 9:38:48 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Monocacy!)
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To: A. Pole

Really? What race are Russians? And as for hateful, well, maybe more along the lines of scornful.
The Russkis have always been the most screwed up society in the civilized world (I use that term loosely).
First, loose bands of tribesmen, led by warlords; then, a kingdom, led by a tsar; followed by the commies; then the criminals, and now heading for a dictatorship.
Yep. I can see how I'm way out of line criticizing the Russians.


19 posted on 02/04/2007 9:59:45 PM PST by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: JerseyHighlander

This will provide a huge boost to Russia's worker productivity levels once the market sorts itself out. The short term pain of losing mom and pop stalls will create huge opportunities for American style supermarkets to open and expand in the region==

I agree with you. IMO you got it right.


20 posted on 02/05/2007 1:35:19 AM PST by RusIvan (The western MSM zombies the western publics.)
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