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Unforgivable breach of Man Code
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/3/7 | C.W. Nevius

Posted on 02/02/2007 10:04:44 PM PST by SmithL

When the Gavin Newsom scandal broke, most of us assumed the public reaction would be a no-brainer. Sleeping with a married woman? How do you think that would play with wives, girlfriends and single women in the Bay Area?

As a Newsom staffer told a Chronicle reporter, there goes the women's vote.

But a funny thing happened after the headlines hit and the buzz began: Many women said they were ready to forgive and forget.

Not men, though. No way. Many said they would never trust Newsom again as long as they lived. Some were livid; many were incredulous.

The difference? Apparently it is the Man Code, a set of rigid but unwritten boundaries over which no man may step. Break the Man Code, and you're toast.

"It's a huge betrayal," sputtered Jason Mundstuk, 67, a business owner from Oakland who got upset just talking about it. "It's big. It's mythical."

C'mon, you say, what is this, a TV beer commercial? Evidently not. These guys were dead serious. Make no mistake -- having an affair with the wife of a trusted male colleague is an irrevocable Man Code violation.

"Hello?" wrote Mike Mulholland, 43, who grew up in the Bay Area before moving to San Diego County. "Newsom slept with his friend's wife. What if he stole from a friend? Or tried to frame a friend? Would that also be nobody's business?"

OK, haven't we heard this before? After all, Bill Clinton had his indiscretions with Monica Lewinsky. Former San Jose Mayor Ron Gonzales had a relationship with a 25-year-old member of his staff. So when news of Newsom's affair broke, the reaction of some women was: Are we supposed to be surprised by this?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: anytwosomenewsom; cultureofcorruption; lackofcharacter; mancode; sanfranciscovalues
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1 posted on 02/02/2007 10:04:45 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL; Gondring

The traditional way to handle this would be for the husband of the woman Gavin Newsom slept with to challenge Newsome to a duel.


2 posted on 02/02/2007 10:12:11 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: SmithL

All of those stupid rules about behaving honorably and not betraying one's closest friends only apply to unattractive people. Anybody knows that.


3 posted on 02/02/2007 10:13:40 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: SmithL

Yawn. It's only about sex, and in San Francisco, no less. In a month it'll be ancient history, long forgotten.


4 posted on 02/02/2007 10:15:18 PM PST by poindexter
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To: SmithL

"But man, if you had only seen her looking like that. I mean, what was I supposed to do?"

Try sticking with/it to the babe you were married to that anchors a show now on the Foxes News Network.


5 posted on 02/02/2007 10:16:40 PM PST by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Schmidt, CEO Google)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Have sex with my wife, and you (and she) had better still be running … though Arizona, Kansas and points east.


6 posted on 02/02/2007 10:17:35 PM PST by doc1019 (If Obama is elected as President, we will become an “Obama Nation”.)
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To: SmithL


Huh ? People still have heterosexual intercourse in

San Francisco !?

Who knew !


7 posted on 02/02/2007 10:23:23 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: SmithL
I got the impression that in this case it was a combination of "San Francisco values" + "Media covers for Demoncrat" + "amazement that he is straight" .

Remember all the stories about how Ahnold was unfit for Governor if he groped a woman 20 years ago?

8 posted on 02/02/2007 10:26:47 PM PST by ikka
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To: everyone

Women are offended by adultery because it could happen to them. But if the guy's cute, or liberal (if they're liberal), or the media doesn't seem upset -- well, that's different. I'll get flayed for saying this, but I do believe men have a stronger, or certainly a more rational, sense of justice. As seen here.


9 posted on 02/02/2007 10:26:50 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: SmithL

Meet the next governor of California. Look at what they elect there - - Newsome is a shoe-in. This is San Fransicko, California we're talking about. Newsome's "job approval" ratings will go through the roof.


10 posted on 02/02/2007 10:30:17 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Para-Ord.45
Huh ? People still have heterosexual intercourse in San Francisco !? Who knew !

It was in an alternate "entryway", so it still counts as a San Fran Freako thing.

11 posted on 02/02/2007 10:31:30 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: SmithL

Sorry Ladies to say this, but this is a perfect example.

Women are emotional. It's just true.

Women vote.

What motivates women voters, is sadly, their feelings. More than anything.

What feelings most drive women? Men.

Women, vote for the candidate then wish was their boyfriend.

Too many, are ready to accept a bad guy, as long as he's smooth.

Sorry again Ladies, but that's my take.

That's why that scum bucket in SFO will get a pass.

And he's a leftist. Of course. So the media will trot out the usual spin.

--

BTW: PRESIDENT BUSH PLEASE PARDON THE BORDER GUARDS.


12 posted on 02/02/2007 10:31:32 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Mr. President: PARDON NACHO AND JOSE!)
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To: SmithL

I don't know exactly how this relates, but the one absolutely incontrovertible Man Code is, "No matter how hot she may be, there's some guy out there who's sick of her."

I cleaned it up a little.


13 posted on 02/02/2007 10:33:31 PM PST by JennysCool (Blink 182 isn't just a band, it's Nancy Pelosi's per-minute average.)
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To: SmithL
So…..he breaks the law and orders the City to marry gays and everyone’s fine with that…..but he has a private affair and people suddenly give a sh!t?

SF is a lost cause.

14 posted on 02/02/2007 10:33:55 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Paleo Conservative
The traditional way to handle this would be for the husband of the woman Gavin Newsom slept with to challenge Newsome to a duel.

You know that never much sense to me. It truly sucks when a guys wife cheats on him. It sucks a lot more when a guys wife cheats on him, and then the guy she cheated with runs him through in a duel. On average, the odds of the good guy winning are 50%, so not good. Maybe even less as scoundrals tend to be on the more masculine side of things than nice guys. See chapter at: Don't fight guys who've done time, they're tougher than you are

15 posted on 02/02/2007 10:36:45 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas

A great common sense post there!

To post another bit of common sense, if either marriage partner is straying outside the fold, there's something wrong with the fold.


16 posted on 02/02/2007 10:43:32 PM PST by JennysCool (Blink 182 isn't just a band, it's Nancy Pelosi's per-minute average.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
All of those stupid rules about behaving honorably and not betraying one's closest friends only apply to unattractive people who are not rich.
17 posted on 02/02/2007 10:46:33 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Good add. I should've thought of that.


18 posted on 02/02/2007 10:51:26 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: JennysCool
A great common sense post there!

Call it life experience, but I learned not to talk stupid trash, and I have little respect for those who do. Guys who start sentences with "If he slept with my wife/kid/dog/goat/sheep I'd...." are usually full of it. In real life they'd be the first to piss their pants.

I'm tough, but only kinda-sorta-tough. Tough for a small guy who's never been shot, raped and been through prison tough. I know some guys who are "I was shot, went to prison and fought my way from bitch to Sir" tough, and there is no comparison.

I knew a guy named Skin who read Sonny Barger's autobiography, and was impressed with the description of a guy Sonny was afraid of, so he taught himself to bend quarters between his thumb and forfinger just like Barger's buddy. Now to bring this one home, this guy who could bend Washington in two would pinch through flesh in a fight. Most internet tough guys can't even imagine what man having his bicep pinched through sounds like when he screams. I've heard it, and I'll be honest, I almost pissed my pants because I'm not that kind of tough.

So before I say stupid things that begin with "If it were me I'd...." I stop and think, what if it was Skin, what would I do then? Get a lawyer and get a divorce usually sounds a lot more reasonable than picking a fight at that point.

19 posted on 02/02/2007 10:55:52 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: SmithL

A wife that would sleep with her husbands best friend is not worth dueling over.


20 posted on 02/02/2007 10:58:36 PM PST by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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