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Perry orders anti-cancer vaccine for schoolgirls
Houston Chronicle/AP ^ | Feb. 2, 2007 | LIZ AUSTIN PETERSON

Posted on 02/02/2007 1:28:44 PM PST by YCTHouston

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To: DalcoTX
>>>>>>You could say<<<<<<< anything you wish, you can believe anything that you wish, you can even wish for anything that you wish.
You will never ever figure out a way to mold me into the Collective mind that you reside in and therefore I will never be able to wrap my mind around the concept that you propose.

Please feel free to try and change my mind, here is a hint... Try thinking as an Individual first and try to inhibit your immediate Submissive Government Collective reactions.

There is a time and a place for immediate unquestioned authority, that time and place or power will hopefully never be wielded by an elected official for they are merely power hungry amateurs that when tested would get everyone that listened to them killed. (This most assuredly includes Gov Perry)

I really hope that you are in your twenties or younger so that you can use the excuse of the young that of inexperience, if you are older than 30 get off the couch, throw away your TV, Cancel your Newspapers join the Merchant Marines or anything that will get you outside City Limits and join the World as an Individual.

An aside... I was listening to a Local Talk Show recently and heard a very telling caller to a Liberal Host she said "I won't watch it Live, I'll wait until tomorrow, read about it in the Paper and then I'll make my own mind up!"
to which of course the Host (and maybe you) totally agreed with.

TT
541 posted on 02/03/2007 7:22:12 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: DalcoTX; TexasTransplant
Welcome to FR.

You could say that both the state government and the family groups that oppose the vaccine are omnipotent busybodies and that they are doing so for their own conscience.

No, you couldn't, because the family groups that oppose the vaccine are not trying to force everyone to follow their directives or conscience. They are not trying to prohibit everyone from taking it and force their conscience on others. They just want the freedom to make the decision for themselves and allow others to make the decision for themselves, also.

542 posted on 02/03/2007 7:40:57 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: YCTHouston

Unlawful nanny state BS ping


543 posted on 02/03/2007 8:00:28 PM PST by omega4179 (Hitler had a "Rockstar" personality too.)
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To: YCTHouston

This group of virus infects 80% of the female population. It is an excellent public health initiative on the part of Texas.


544 posted on 02/03/2007 8:47:58 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: metmom

I am not against this vaccine, but I do not want my little 10 year old daughters getting it right now.

One of my daughters has brain damage, and has some impulse problems. I'm worried she'll be impulsive with sex, so I'm pretty realistic about all of this stuff. If it really will keep her pretty safe, we'll probably go ahead with the vaccine. My other daughter is very level headed. I think she'll either wait until she's married (or at least wait until she's an adult). She's a thinker. I know when she does have sex, she'll be the type to be prepared.

I just think waiting until they are at least 16 seems like a reasonable thing. If you think your daughter is going to be sexually active, then get it younger.

Also, you have to look at the side effects of all vaccines. What are the risks and what are the benefits? Are the benefits worth the risk?


545 posted on 02/03/2007 9:26:14 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: doc30

Why not just provide the vaccine for free and let parents choose what to do about their children?


546 posted on 02/03/2007 9:29:49 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: genxer
What happens when these mandated children start having children with birth defects.

That won't happen. They'll detect those defects early, and abort the babies. It's a whole new world!

547 posted on 02/03/2007 9:34:46 PM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: bigred41

If your story were true, you'd have a good lawsuit against the doctor(s) who overlooked the early warnings.


548 posted on 02/03/2007 9:36:33 PM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: doc30

Offering it is fine. Ordering it is not.


549 posted on 02/03/2007 9:59:00 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: doc30
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/types/cervical/

Definition of cervical cancer: Cancer that forms in tissues of the cervix (the organ connecting the uterus and vagina). It is usually a slow-growing cancer that may not have symptoms but can be found with regular Pap tests (a procedure in which cells are scraped from the cervix and looked at under a microscope).

Regular pap tests would probably go a lot further. It would catch those in the pre-cancerous stage when it is much more treatable, as opposed to forcibly vaccinating millions of girls against something they stand very little risk of developing, with who knows what long terms side effects, not to mention the loss of personal freedom.

550 posted on 02/03/2007 10:04:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Regular pap tests would probably go a lot further. It would catch those in the pre-cancerous stage when it is much more treatable, as opposed to forcibly vaccinating millions of girls against something they stand very little risk of developing, with who knows what long terms side effects, not to mention the loss of personal freedom.

It easier to provide a vaccine and not develp the precancerous stage at all. And out of 10 million girls, 8 million WILL get HPV. And if yopu don't want your daughter to be vaccinated against something she will likely get, you can. Public health laws differ on your opinion on freedom in this case.

551 posted on 02/03/2007 10:11:33 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30

I think there are a lot of us that think 12 years old is too young, and it they are not sexually active then why vaccinate them.

It just shouldn't be mandated.


552 posted on 02/03/2007 10:13:29 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: doc30

It's an excellent profit booster for Merck.


553 posted on 02/03/2007 10:14:04 PM PST by YCTHouston
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To: luckystarmom

On several other threads, HonestConservative revelaed she worked on developing the vaccine. The manufactuer is losing money on it and in a different thread, made note that it giving it away in many places.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776624/posts?page=76#76


554 posted on 02/03/2007 10:22:56 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: YCTHouston

No it is not. Merck will not recover the development costs.


555 posted on 02/03/2007 10:23:52 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: luckystarmom
I think there are a lot of us that think 12 years old is too young, and it they are not sexually active then why vaccinate them.

That's why it is given then. It needs to be given before the girls become sexually active ---> before they could be infected. It won't work if you give it to them later. And if you had a daughter and you never let her have the vaccine, what would you say to her if, in her 30's, she develops a cancer that could have been prevented.

556 posted on 02/03/2007 10:26:14 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30

So it's charity? I love all you anonymous on-line "docs" who post assertion after assertion with no support.


557 posted on 02/03/2007 10:33:21 PM PST by YCTHouston
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To: metmom

Who takes their kids to the doctor over chicken pox? Everybody I know got through it with a bottle of Calamine lotion or Caladryl, some aspirin, and coloring books or video games. I don't know anyone who went to a doctor, or got a vaccination against it. And yet, we all survived.


558 posted on 02/03/2007 10:36:53 PM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: doc30

I understand that it needs to be given before she is sexually active. But why not wait until she is 16?

Or if you know your child is not active at that point, then 18. I would really prefer that we wait until 18 and my daughter could figure out what she wants to do on her own.


559 posted on 02/03/2007 11:01:27 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Zechariah_8_13
http://www.immunizationinfo.org/parents/vaccine_effectiveness.cfm
560 posted on 02/04/2007 5:26:40 AM PST by DalcoTX
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