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Gates Slams Mac Ads, Questions Mac Security
MacNN.com ^ | 2 Feb 2007

Posted on 02/02/2007 10:59:18 AM PST by big'ol_freeper

Microsoft co-founder and former CEO Bill Gates has openly criticized Apple's 'Get a Mac' ads, called the company a liar, and questioned the security of Apple's Mac OS X operating system. In a recent interview with Newsweek, Gates compared Microsoft's recently released security-oriented Windows Vista to Apple's Mac OS X: "We made it way harder for guys to do exploits," Gates said, referring to Windows Vista. "The number [of violations] will be way less because we've done some dramatic things [to improve security] in the code base. Apple hasn't done any of those things." The executive also referenced the frequent discovery of flaws in Mac OS X. "Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine." Gates was likely referring to the 'Month of Apple Bugs' project -- which came under intense criticism this week for exploiting Safari users attempting to view a freshly-discovered bug.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: computers; mac; micrsoft
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To: UpAllNight
No. Apple MAC went with the USB to be compatible with the Apple IPOD. All the Mac users were complaining that they couldn't hook up their Apple Ipods to their Apple Macs.,

Odd. I've had USB ports on my Macs for ages. My iPod came with two cables - one firewire and one USB. FWIW, I've never used the USB cable to connect my iPod. So maybe not *all* the Mac users were complaing.

181 posted on 02/02/2007 5:01:31 PM PST by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

To equate a computer to an automobile is dishonest at best.

Have a nice hard look at the Amiga, Commodore 64 and Atari communities. They have MORE support than the Mac I bought 10-15 years after their manufacture. More hardware support, more software support and a bigger user base.

And as of this writing, they have a higher resale value as well. The C64 has a resale value of 50$ with perephrials. The 6100 is worth 10$ with perephrials. Considering the price differentials and the date of manufacture (1981 VS 1996)...

The Amiga 4000 would have been a better choice AND value, as the resale value of those models are in the HUNDREDS of dollars, and were made BEFORE my 6100.

Mac burned me. In my experience, their systems are un upgradeable in comparison to models made fifteen years earlier.

I got burned by a brand name. My 6100 was worthless two years after I bought it. I won't be suckered again.

APf






182 posted on 02/02/2007 5:13:08 PM PST by APFel (Regnum Nostrum Crescit)
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To: Petronski
The question of who was first is neither what I meant nor what I said.

Yes it was, here is your quote, follow the link:

But the choice of the word "lying" was yours.

You said "the choice of the word 'lying' was yours", when the choice of the word "lying" was obviously yours, first.

your psychological projection is astounding

LOL, I just searched the thread for the word "lying", and several of your posts came up first. LMAO.

183 posted on 02/02/2007 5:14:30 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Halgr

Oh, an MS employee. That's the best you have?

I used MS-DOS 6.22 well into 1998 EXCLUSIVELY on my PC systems. I am hardly a MS fanboy. But I know jusk when I buy it, and the early generations of PPC Macs were and are junk.

Oh, and I use Firefox and Thunderbird as well. Some fanboy / MS employee I turned out to be. I helped break the Explorer "monopoly" by using the better product. Golly gee!

APf


184 posted on 02/02/2007 5:17:21 PM PST by APFel (Regnum Nostrum Crescit)
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To: Golden Eagle
You see, he is the one who chose to call me a liar, to say I was lying. In the sentence in which he did that, the word he chose to refer to me was "lying."

Spin all you want, but it seems you and your fellow sophmoric Microsoft fans need some remedial reading instruction.

185 posted on 02/02/2007 5:19:46 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Petronski
the word he chose to refer to me was "lying."

After you brought up the word "lying" first, in post 143. Then in post 158, you accuse him of bringing up the word, "lying", first, when it was actually you that brought up the word first.

LOL everybody else has already searched the thread for the word "lying" by now and seen that you brought it up several times before anyone else, who do you think you are trying to fool?

186 posted on 02/02/2007 5:26:35 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: APFel

$250.00 on ebay will get you an iBook 900mgh, 20 gig hard drive, with Tiger installed. Think about it, instead of being so upset that your 10 (?) yr old computer won't do today's tasks.


187 posted on 02/02/2007 5:33:46 PM PST by blu (All grammar and punctuation rules are *OFF* for the "24" thread.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Then in post 158, you accuse him of bringing up the word, "lying", first...

Nope. Not what I said. Repetition will not make it more true.

It's not about first, it's about the choice of words he used in describing me.

You cannot resist trolling anything showing Microsoft in a bad light.

188 posted on 02/02/2007 5:33:57 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: APFel
Have a nice hard look at the Amiga, Commodore 64 and Atari communities.

Have a look at the Stanley Steamer, Nash Ramber, and AMC Gremlin communities. Obsolete hardware always has its quixotic devotees. The reason that there's no comparable Mac community for the 6100 is that people have moved on. You can get a Mac Mini for $599. And take a real look at the Mac community.

And as of this writing, they have a higher resale value as well. The C64 has a resale value of 50$ with perephrials. The 6100 is worth 10$ with perephrials. Considering the price differentials and the date of manufacture (1981 VS 1996)...

And if you'd bought a Stanley Steamer in 1919, it would be worth far more today than my 8 year old Camry.

n my experience, their systems are un upgradeable in comparison to models made fifteen years earlier.

Your experience is now 13 years old. Macs are readily upgradeable today. Seriously, you bought a bottom of the line computer 13 years ago and you're complaining that you can't do everything you want with it and that it doesn't have a cult following llike a Commodore.

189 posted on 02/02/2007 5:38:03 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Petronski
Nope. Not what I said.

It most certainly is. I've already linked it several times, and here it is again:

But the choice of the word "lying" was yours.

Those are your words, yet when anyone searches this thread for the word quote "lying", they will see your name come up several times before anyone else, including the poster in question. This isn't even my argument, but since you're obviously willing to lie over something as trivial and easily verifiable as who used the word "lying" first in this thread, you might as well be called out on it. The factg you'd argue it, despite the how easily it can be checked to verify that you are now actually "lying", is perfectly fitting.

190 posted on 02/02/2007 5:39:16 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I'll say it again. I am referring to the word he chose to use to describe me, not who used that word first.

This is your pattern, twisting things and then insisting your twisted version is the true version. You have done it so many times, a list actually had to be compiled to keep track of it all.

Meanwhile, you spin spin spin, hoping to turn your smear into the accepted truth, all the while trying to drive the signal to noise ratio of the thread into the ground. It is your tried-and-true method of operation.

Let me repeat it again for you:

...you're obviously willing to lie over something as trivial and easily verifiable as who used the word "lying" first...

I am not lying about who used the word lying first (or anything else), and first use of the word obviously is not and was not my point. I made no claims as to who used the word first. He chose to describe me as "lying." That was my point and everything else is your spin.

Like Goebbels himself, you hope by repeating it often enough you will make it so. Troll on.

191 posted on 02/02/2007 5:47:27 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Petronski
I am not lying about who used the word lying first

Yeah right, all anyone has to do is search the thread for the word "lying" to see you used it several times before anyone else, the fact you're now lying about that now as well is no one's surprise.

I made no claims as to who used the word first.

Be sure and tell yourself that a thousand times more before you fall off asleep tonight, ROFL. When you wake up, search the thread for the word "lying". Or have someone else do it for you, LMAO.

192 posted on 02/02/2007 5:56:03 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
. . . you're now lying about that now . . .

Not true. See 191.

When you wake up, search the thread for the word "lying".

Such a search is irrelevant, since I made no claim about who used the word first. See 191.

193 posted on 02/02/2007 5:57:43 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Golden Eagle
...the fact you're now lying about that now as well is no one's surprise.

Are you claiming I deny using the word first, troll? First use is irrelevant, since I made no claim about first use.

194 posted on 02/02/2007 5:58:50 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: FLAMING DEATH; antiRepublicrat; rzeznikj at stout

I believe GE's shabby performance on this thread qualifies for "the list."

Both lists, really: the "Thread Jester" pinglist AND the "GE's Astonishing Career of Lies" list.

It's all laid out quite clearly in #191.


195 posted on 02/02/2007 6:01:28 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Petronski
Are you claiming I deny using the word first...I made no claim about first use.

Want me to link it again? Sure, for at least the fifth time, although this is obviously a waste of FR bandwidth, but if you don't mind being a spectacle of liberal insanity:

But the choice of the word "lying" was yours.

196 posted on 02/02/2007 6:06:38 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Link it 100 times. It still will not say what you claim it says. Here, I'll link it myself:

But the choice of the word "lying" was yours.

Hmmm, let's see....

Nope. Still contains no claim about who used the word first.

It's all laid out quite clearly in #191.

197 posted on 02/02/2007 6:08:42 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Petronski

ROFL, urgent ping to "Flaming Death" and "AntiRepublican"! Golden Eagle busted me again. LOL.


198 posted on 02/02/2007 6:12:20 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

It's all quite clear in #191. Your use of the terms "busted me" and "again" are extravagantly delusional.


199 posted on 02/02/2007 6:15:52 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: APFel

Your a classic example of "anyone with a computer can offer opinions on the internet"...good for you bloke


200 posted on 02/02/2007 8:06:20 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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