Taleban forces retake Afghan town(Brit soldiers brokered peace deal)

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[hipaatwo]

Taleban forces in southern Afghanistan have taken control of a town which British troops had pulled out of after a peace deal with local elders.

Some local people said they were leaving the town, Musa Qala in Helmand province, for fear of bombing raids on the Taleban by Nato forces.

US commanders and diplomats had criticised the deal.

They said it had not been done with elders but with the Taleban themselves and was not the way to defeat them.

Controversial change

The BBC's Alastair Leithead in Kabul says the loss of Musa Qala to the Taleban is a blow to the strategy of establishing peace deals in Helmand

[EQAndyBuzz]

This was a great move on the part of the GB. They have scattered the Taliban. We don't want onesies and twosies of Taliban running around. We want them to recongregate and then we will wipe them out again. Wash, rinse and repeat.

Reverse strategery.

[Tree of Liberty]

False comparison. We were the pivotal force in the Soviet's defeat. Furthermore, neither the USSR or the U.S. were/are using all their capabilities to end the war as quickly as possible with victory.

In Islam, there is no delineation between civilian and warrior. Our posterity, if it is to exist, demands their complete and utter destruction. We have ways of making that happen in a matter of minutes. It is only a lack of testicular fortitude that prohibits our success.

[domenad]

Uh, the Russian military machine has only really had success when they are invaded. A comparison between the US military and virtually any other military on earth is, quite frankly, unfair.

[expatguy]

"After our victory in Afghanistan and the defeat of the oppressors who had killed millions of Muslims, the legend about the invincibility of the superpowers vanished. Our boys no longer viewed America as a superpower. So, when they left Afghanistan, they went to Somalia and prepared themselves carefully for a long war. They had thought that the Americans were like the Russians, so they trained and prepared. They were stunned when they discovered how low was the morale of the American soldier. America had entered with 30,000 soldiers in addition to thousands of soldiers from different countries in the world. ... As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger. He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt to his army, so he fled, and America had to stop all its bragging and all that noise it was making in the press after the Gulf War in which it destroyed the infrastructure and the milk and dairy industry that was vital for the infants and the children and the civilians and blew up dams which were necessary for the crops people grew to feed their families. Proud of this destruction, America assumed the titles of world leader and master of the new world order. After a few blows, it forgot all about those titles and rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace, dragging the bodies of its soldiers. America stopped calling itself world leader and master of the new world order, and its politicians realized that those titles were too big for them and that they were unworthy of them. I was in Sudan when this happened. I was very happy to learn of that great defeat that America suffered, so was every Muslim. ..."

Osama Bin Laden - 1998 Interview

[Oct1967]

if people knew their British history, this is par for the course