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Whose Side Is Bush On?
Constitution Party ^ | 1/31/07 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 02/01/2007 6:44:05 PM PST by tfelice

There was someone in the gallery during President George W. Bush’s State of the Union speech that he would not dare publicly recognize. Even though he knew she was there, I’m confident he never even bothered to look up at Gallery 5, Row B, Seat 9, because sitting in that seat was Monica Ramos, the wife of imprisoned former Border Patrol agent Ignacio Ramos. She was the invited guest of Republican California Congressman Dana Rohrabacher.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderagents; borderpatrol; bush; bushbash; chuckbaldwin; constamatootionparty; constimatooshinparty; constitutionparty; coverup; guilty; hidingshells; immigration; johnnysutton; newsignups; obl; openborderslobby; seminardisruptors; stateoftheunion; wow
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To: Obie Wan
His character has everything to do with it. GROW UP! When the President of the United States makes a political statement,be it some sellout amnesty program or calling a group of concerned citizens like the Minutemen a vigilante group there's a statement loud and clear being sent. Maybe You think the world of politics is a Norman Rockwell painting but I don't and I disagree that questioning this whole situation is hysteria.As for your embarrasment I could care less !!!

And there you have it. A calm, rational, grown-up reply.

41 posted on 02/01/2007 8:28:17 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish

It' calm,it' rational,it's grown up and it's better then anything you've posted darling !!!


42 posted on 02/01/2007 8:30:16 PM PST by Obie Wan
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To: pissant
These guys are guilty of breaking the rules. The prosecutor/judge are asswipes for going for such stern sentences.

Good analysis. Can the sentences be reduced on appeal? I believe there should be no pardon until the appeals process is complete.

43 posted on 02/01/2007 8:30:50 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Obie Wan

Thanks, dear. I like all the exclamation points.


44 posted on 02/01/2007 8:31:38 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: tfelice
Whose Side Is Bush On?

I've been asking that question since the Berger sentencing.

45 posted on 02/01/2007 8:32:31 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: pissant
"I`m an innocent man! The cops set me up! The witnesses lied! The persecutor hates me! The judge is sleeping with my mother-in-law! The jury was drunk! I did it to save my life! I didn`t get picked for any team at school! BLAH, BLAH, BLAH" We do have a rule, it`s Border Patrol agents can`t shoot anybody they want.
Also, it`s pretty da#m arrogant to say that the jury, after hearing all the evidence, was wrong. (Question: why did one BP agent only fire once and when and why did he shoot?)
46 posted on 02/01/2007 8:32:47 PM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: neverhillorat

I agree with you,he should have fire a lot more !!!


47 posted on 02/01/2007 8:35:36 PM PST by Obie Wan
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To: tfelice

Constitution Party threads belong in the humor section.


48 posted on 02/01/2007 8:36:02 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Obie Wan; pissant

When you defend them for filing a false report, you sound like a lib. They filed a false report and threw away evidence because they knew they had done wrong.


49 posted on 02/01/2007 8:38:36 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Wellllllllll you know us libs,we're usually taking the side of US Border Guards over Mexican drug dealers.It must be our upbringing.Viva Mehico,viva Mehican drug dealers !!!


50 posted on 02/01/2007 8:42:08 PM PST by Obie Wan
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To: Obie Wan

They should due time for being lousy shoots!


51 posted on 02/01/2007 8:43:39 PM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: Obie Wan

So you think lying and hiding evidence is OK?


52 posted on 02/01/2007 8:44:12 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: neverhillorat

LOL.


53 posted on 02/01/2007 8:44:42 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: EveningStar

I'm ok with it !!!


54 posted on 02/01/2007 8:45:12 PM PST by Obie Wan
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To: Obie Wan
I need you to clarify this...You're serious that lying and hiding evidence is ok as long as its against someone you don't like.

(I am being serious in my question.)
55 posted on 02/01/2007 8:47:40 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: woofie
I cant find it in print but I heard a story recently on local (Albuquerque) radio about a significant drop in illegal alliens making it across the border in NM ...Cant remember the numbers but since the 80's there has been a huge increase in border guards etc. no credit is ever given for the positive stuff happening regarding this issue

C'mon now, Woofie. You know Richardson is picking them up at the border in a shuttle bus. LOL! They don't count those in the totals. ;o)

56 posted on 02/01/2007 9:05:03 PM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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To: pissant

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/2006/compeanramosfinal.pdf


Here's a good link detailing this story


57 posted on 02/01/2007 9:14:48 PM PST by Loud Mime ("She got her looks from her father. He's a plastic surgeon." - Groucho Marx)
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To: pollyannaish

How are things on the "West Side" with the Illegal Immigrants?


58 posted on 02/01/2007 9:14:48 PM PST by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: tfelice; All
What has destroyed President Bush's credibility is NOT that he won't pardon these border agents, and it's NOT that they were subjected to a "curiously aggressive" high-level prosecution effort, in which federal prosecutors and high-ranking Justice Dept. officials went to extraordinary lengths in granting multiple immunities to a known criminal and drug-runner for his testimony, in order to make an example of these men.

No, what has destroyed his credibility is that he has allowed all this to be done while simultaneously:

1. Sandy Berger is walking around free with a slap on the wrist.

2. Scooter Libbey is being allowed to twist in the wind at the mercy of an out-of-control prosecutor, while the high-ranking lady CIA Asst. Director (whose name momentarily eludes me) who helped set up the whole Valerie Plame scam was also given a slap on the wrist, allowed to resign, and not prosecuted.

3. The publisher and editor or the New York Time, their reporters, and the US govt. agents in the CIA and State Departments who illegally leaked and published classified information on two national security programs critical to our fight against terrorists have yet to be arrested, indicted and tried for breaking the law.

4. An out-of-control JAG corps in our military is being allowed to devastate the morale of our fighting men and women in harms way with politically motivated prosecutions.

5. Members of the US Congress, former government officials now flacking for foreign governments, and lunatic ex-Presidents are routinely jet-setting around the world and publicly conducting, with great media fanfare, their own foreign policy negotiations with enemy governments in direct violation of the Logan Act, and in direct contradiction of the policies of the duly-elected government of our country, and NOTHING has been done about it.

The above list is far from exhaustive. I could go on for quite a while, but they suffice to illustrate the point. What has destroyed President Bush's credibility is NOT that the border agents were punished, it's the HYPOCRITICAL and SELECTIVE nature of the Bush Administration's Justice Department, it's the "Justice For Thee, But Not For Me" attitude.

These border agents messed-up, badly, but what they did does not represent a threat to our national survival, yet their own government comes down on them like the proverbial ton of bricks, while high-ranking, powerful individuals in positions of trust and grave responsibility for our nation's security, and who commit crimes which DO threaten our security, and which DO give "aid and comfort" to our mortal enemies, these people are untouched.

As long as this brazen, contemptible double-standard of justice remains the preferred philosophy of the Administration and indeed the rest of the government classes, they will never regain their credibility, and they will have squandered and forfeited their legitimacy.

59 posted on 02/01/2007 9:15:48 PM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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To: Buddy B

I'm sorry. I'm going to have to plead ignorance here. What are you asking? I'll be happy to answer.


60 posted on 02/01/2007 9:17:39 PM PST by pollyannaish
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