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NFL won't let church show game
Sports Illustrated ^ | 2/1/07 | AP

Posted on 02/01/2007 12:49:16 PM PST by Publius Valerius

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- The NFL has nixed a church's plans to use a wall projector to show the Colts-Bears Super Bowl game, saying it would violate copyright laws.

NFL officials spotted a promotion of Fall Creek Baptist Church's "Super Bowl Bash" on the church Web site last week and overnighted a letter to the pastor demanding the party be canceled, the church said.

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But the NFL objected to the church's plans to use a projector to show the game, saying the law limits it to one TV no bigger than 55 inches.

The church will likely abandon its plans to host a Super Bowl party.

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NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league's long-standing policy is to ban "mass out-of-home viewing" of the Super Bowl. An exception is made for sports bars and other businesses that show televised sports as a part of their everyday operations.

"We have contracts with our (TV) networks to provide free over-the-air television for people at home," Aiello said. "The network economics are based on television ratings and at-home viewing. Out-of-home viewing is not measured by Nielsen."

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"It just frustrates me that most of the places where crowds are going to gather to watch this game are going to be places that are filled with alcohol and other things that are inappropriate for children," Newland said. "We tried to provide an alternative to that and were shut down."

Other Indiana churches said they are deciding whether they should go through with their Super Bowl party plans, given the NFL's stance.

(Excerpt) Read more at sportsillustrated.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Illinois; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: bigscreentv; copyrightlaws; nannystate; nfl; nofunleague; notforprophets; religion; religiousintolerance; superbowl; three
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To: TBP
"If caught grilling or consuming alcohol within that one-mile radius of Dolphins Stadium, fans initially "will be warned and asked to pick up their things and leave," Fonticella said. "We're trying to make this a pleasant experience for everyone, and there will be plenty to do in the week leading up to the game." ""

This makes me really wish, for the only time in my life, that I lived within 1 mile of Dolphin Staduim. I'd have the biggest front-yard tailgate party the world had ever seen! And then my guests and I would watch the game on my 56" TV - outside!!

141 posted on 02/01/2007 3:24:40 PM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: El Cid

I was talking strictly New Testament. Christians are no longer under Old Testament law


142 posted on 02/01/2007 3:29:54 PM PST by cyclotic (Support Cub Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: TBP

No, you can talk about it because you are not using their word for any profit. If they would bill it as "Family night at the Church", please bring some snacks and you just happen to turn on the 55 Inch TV and watch the Superbowl, no harm done!


143 posted on 02/01/2007 3:30:26 PM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Londo Molari
The Superbowl is one of the most overrated events ever invented. I can't stand to watch it anymore.

I've never seen one, never will. I wouldn't walk across the street to see any football game ever played.

144 posted on 02/01/2007 3:31:36 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Publius Valerius

Let's hear it for the National Felons League.


145 posted on 02/01/2007 3:33:38 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
"What's a church doing showing the Super Bowl on the Sabbath?"

Their not showing it on the Sabbath, they're showing it on Sunday.

(I know, I know, now I'm just nit-picking. :-)

146 posted on 02/01/2007 3:51:58 PM PST by Pablo64 (Ask me about my alpacas!)
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To: Stone Mountain
This is nothing new, and it isn't just for the Super Bowl. I remember hearing something like this after every Cubs game I have ever watched or listened to.
Paraphrasing
This game is copyrighted by WGN and the Chicago Cubs baseball team, any use or rebroadcast of this telecast without the express written consent of WGN and/or the Chicago Cubs is strictly prohibited.
This is nothing new, and it isn't just for the Super Bowl. I remember hearing something like this after every Cubs game I have ever watched or listened to.
147 posted on 02/01/2007 4:04:06 PM PST by sharkhawk (Bear Down Chicago Bears)
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To: garyb; Cheburashka
I would be interested in chapter & verse of "the law" that limits screen size to 55 inches.

Go here (no need to contact the NFL for something easily found online). Hopefully my posting an excerpt will not violate copyright:

the following are not infringements of copyright:
5. B. communication by an establishment of a transmission ... embodying a performance ... intended to be received by the general public, originated by a radio or television broadcast station ... or ... by a cable system or satellite carrier, if
i. in the case of an establishment other than a food service or drinking establishment ...
II. any visual portion of the performance or display is communicated by means of a total of not more than 4 audiovisual devices, of which not more than 1 audiovisual device is located in any 1 room, and no such audiovisual device has a diagonal screen size greater than 55 inches

There you go, the law. The NFL people aren't trying to be jackasses; it is just that if you let one person slide, then others will be able to claim the same. Hence, if this church has a SuperBowl party, then some guy can do the same next year and charge admission.

148 posted on 02/01/2007 4:31:02 PM PST by psychoknk
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To: lightman
Try ....."church outreach"....

It's a way to reach out to the community .....

..but I don't know of any church that would charge to do this.

149 posted on 02/01/2007 4:39:23 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: bleach

And a revocation for use of the Hail Mary play.


150 posted on 02/01/2007 5:43:43 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Ditto

From the article...

"Pastor John D. Newland said he told the NFL his church would not charge anyone and that it would drop the use of the forbidden words.

But the NFL objected to the church's plans to use a projector to show the game, saying the law limits it to one TV no bigger than 55 inches."

Seems pretty clear they weren't charging, unless the Pastor is lying.


151 posted on 02/01/2007 8:06:46 PM PST by Breyean
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To: Junior
Hi Junior,

Sabbath has several definitions: seventh, week, rest (intermission).
Pre-Resurrection it was clearly the seventh day.
Post-Resurrection - the Rest.
Our rest is the day of the risen LORD: The First day of the Week. The Day that God first said "Let there be Light" is the Day that we have been brought out of darkness into His marvelous light.
We have come into His Rest, and we rest in HIS completed works.

Hebrews 4:1-11
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Our day of rest (sabbath) is the day Christ arose.
We enter into this rest by faith in HIS completed works.
He IS Risen.
Praise ye the LORD!

152 posted on 02/01/2007 9:44:15 PM PST by El Cid (Nothing in my hand I bring, simply to HIS cross I cling...)
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To: cyclotic
I was talking strictly New Testament. Christians are no longer under Old Testament law

Hi Cyclotic,

Scripture is one unit - written by one author ('all scripture is given by inspiration of God...').

My intent is not to put anyone under bondage. The LAW remains - as it was in the Old Testament, it is also true now.
Nonetheless, NO ONE is capable of satisfying the LAW.
We need a Redeemer.
Job understood this, David understood this, and God implied as much when HE promised Adam and Eve that the Seed of the woman would crush the serpent's head.
Even so, as we've been freed from bondage by Christ we come to realize that God's Commandments/Laws are a figure of HIS Love and we therefore love His Commandments.

1 John 2:3-6
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1 John 3:23-24
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1 John 5:2-3
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

His commandments are not grievous.
We cannot keep God's commandments in a faultless manner because we are fallen. As Christians we should still be joyous because we are Redeemed - but the Commandments should be our objective. We might stumble, but we understand that the Commandments are a picture of God's Love, and when we fail to follow them (e.g., hate, worship false idols/materials, covet, neglect worship, etc) we suffer.
The Isaiah 58 passage is a wonderful picture of the attitude we should have on our day of worship (repeat from my previous post -- but its a wonderful passage):

Isaiah 58:13-14
If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

153 posted on 02/01/2007 10:11:25 PM PST by El Cid (Nothing in my hand I bring, simply to HIS cross I cling...)
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To: Admin Moderator

Sure, but my title WAS the original published title.


154 posted on 02/02/2007 3:49:52 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

bump for later


155 posted on 02/02/2007 3:49:55 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: All
I want to file a formal complaint to the NFL.

I happen to know of huge Super Bowl parties that will be showing the Super Bowl during the wee hours of Monday morning. These guys are committing an act of copyright violations and I expect you to put a stop to it. Where do you ask? Military quarters in Iraq. (showing absurdity by being absurd)
156 posted on 02/02/2007 4:45:26 AM PST by excalibur1701
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To: Pablo64

Read on, if you haven't already. This is a very contentious issue, but others have also heard of Sunday being referred to as the Christian Sabbath.


157 posted on 02/02/2007 10:40:14 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: TBP
This not strictly a "Super Bowl only" occurrence. My church has groups of men who shoot, kayak, and play paintball together (along with other activities). Many men from other churches in the community as well as unchurched friends, neighbors, etc. join us at these events.
158 posted on 02/02/2007 11:12:53 AM PST by colt1911
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To: garyb


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§ 110. Limitations on exclusive rights: Exemption of certain performances and displays


Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, the following are not infringements of copyright:
(1) performance or display of a work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction, unless, in the case of a motion picture or other audiovisual work, the performance, or the display of individual images, is given by means of a copy that was not lawfully made under this title, and that the person responsible for the performance knew or had reason to believe was not lawfully made;
(2) except with respect to a work produced or marketed primarily for performance or display as part of mediated instructional activities transmitted via digital networks, or a performance or display that is given by means of a copy or phonorecord that is not lawfully made and acquired under this title, and the transmitting government body or accredited nonprofit educational institution knew or had reason to believe was not lawfully made and acquired, the performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work or reasonable and limited portions of any other work, or display of a work in an amount comparable to that which is typically displayed in the course of a live classroom session, by or in the course of a transmission, if—
(A) the performance or display is made by, at the direction of, or under the actual supervision of an instructor as an integral part of a class session offered as a regular part of the systematic mediated instructional activities of a governmental body or an accredited nonprofit educational institution;
(B) the performance or display is directly related and of material assistance to the teaching content of the transmission;
(C) the transmission is made solely for, and, to the extent technologically feasible, the reception of such transmission is limited to—
(i) students officially enrolled in the course for which the transmission is made; or
(ii) officers or employees of governmental bodies as a part of their official duties or employment; and
(D) the transmitting body or institution—
(i) institutes policies regarding copyright, provides informational materials to faculty, students, and relevant staff members that accurately describe, and promote compliance with, the laws of the United States relating to copyright, and provides notice to students that materials used in connection with the course may be subject to copyright protection; and
(ii) in the case of digital transmissions—
(I) applies technological measures that reasonably prevent—
(aa) retention of the work in accessible form by recipients of the transmission from the transmitting body or institution for longer than the class session; and
(bb) unauthorized further dissemination of the work in accessible form by such recipients to others; and
(II) does not engage in conduct that could reasonably be expected to interfere with technological measures used by copyright owners to prevent such retention or unauthorized further dissemination;
(3) performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work or of a dramatico-musical work of a religious nature, or display of a work, in the course of services at a place of worship or other religious assembly;
(4) performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work otherwise than in a transmission to the public, without any purpose of direct or indirect commercial advantage and without payment of any fee or other compensation for the performance to any of its performers, promoters, or organizers, if—
(A) there is no direct or indirect admission charge; or
(B) the proceeds, after deducting the reasonable costs of producing the performance, are used exclusively for educational, religious, or charitable purposes and not for private financial gain, except where the copyright owner has served notice of objection to the performance under the following conditions:
(i) the notice shall be in writing and signed by the copyright owner or such owner’s duly authorized agent; and
(ii) the notice shall be served on the person responsible for the performance at least seven days before the date of the performance, and shall state the reasons for the objection; and
(iii) the notice shall comply, in form, content, and manner of service, with requirements that the Register of Copyrights shall prescribe by regulation;
(5)
(A) except as provided in subparagraph (B), communication of a transmission embodying a performance or display of a work by the public reception of the transmission on a single receiving apparatus of a kind commonly used in private homes, unless—
(i) a direct charge is made to see or hear the transmission; or
(ii) the transmission thus received is further transmitted to the public;
(B) communication by an establishment of a transmission or retransmission embodying a performance or display of a nondramatic musical work intended to be received by the general public, originated by a radio or television broadcast station licensed as such by the Federal Communications Commission, or, if an audiovisual transmission, by a cable system or satellite carrier, if—
(i) in the case of an establishment other than a food service or drinking establishment, either the establishment in which the communication occurs has less than 2,000 gross square feet of space (excluding space used for customer parking and for no other purpose), or the establishment in which the communication occurs has 2,000 or more gross square feet of space (excluding space used for customer parking and for no other purpose) and—
(I) if the performance is by audio means only, the performance is communicated by means of a total of not more than 6 loudspeakers, of which not more than 4 loudspeakers are located in any 1 room or adjoining outdoor space; or
(II) if the performance or display is by audiovisual means, any visual portion of the performance or display is communicated by means of a total of not more than 4 audiovisual devices, of which not more than 1 audiovisual device is located in any 1 room, and no such audiovisual device has a diagonal screen size greater than 55 inches, and any audio portion of the performance or display is communicated by means of a total of not more than 6 loudspeakers, of which not more than 4 loudspeakers are located in any 1 room or adjoining outdoor space;
(ii) in the case of a food service or drinking establishment, either the establishment in which the communication occurs has less than 3,750 gross square feet of space (excluding space used for customer parking and for no other purpose), or the establishment in which the communication occurs has 3,750 gross square feet of space or more (excluding space used for customer parking and for no other purpose) and—
(I) if the performance is by audio means only, the performance is communicated by means of a total of not more than 6 loudspeakers, of which not more than 4 loudspeakers are located in any 1 room or adjoining outdoor space; or
(II) if the performance or display is by audiovisual means, any visual portion of the performance or display is communicated by means of a total of not more than 4 audiovisual devices, of which not more than one audiovisual device is located in any 1 room, and no such audiovisual device has a diagonal screen size greater than 55 inches, and any audio portion of the performance or display is communicated by means of a total of not more than 6 loudspeakers, of which not more than 4 loudspeakers are located in any 1 room or adjoining outdoor space;
(iii) no direct charge is made to see or hear the transmission or retransmission;
(iv) the transmission or retransmission is not further transmitted beyond the establishment where it is received; and
(v) the transmission or retransmission is licensed by the copyright owner of the work so publicly performed or displayed;
(6) performance of a nondramatic musical work by a governmental body or a nonprofit agricultural or horticultural organization, in the course of an annual agricultural or horticultural fair or exhibition conducted by such body or organization; the exemption provided by this clause shall extend to any liability for copyright infringement that would otherwise be imposed on such body or organization, under doctrines of vicarious liability or related infringement, for a performance by a concessionnaire, business establishment, or other person at such fair or exhibition, but shall not excuse any such person from liability for the performance;
(7) performance of a nondramatic musical work by a vending establishment open to the public at large without any direct or indirect admission charge, where the sole purpose of the performance is to promote the retail sale of copies or phonorecords of the work, or of the audiovisual or other devices utilized in such performance, and the performance is not transmitted beyond the place where the establishment is located and is within the immediate area where the sale is occurring;
(8) performance of a nondramatic literary work, by or in the course of a transmission specifically designed for and primarily directed to blind or other handicapped persons who are unable to read normal printed material as a result of their handicap, or deaf or other handicapped persons who are unable to hear the aural signals accompanying a transmission of visual signals, if the performance is made without any purpose of direct or indirect commercial advantage and its transmission is made through the facilities of:
(i) a governmental body; or
(ii) a noncommercial educational broadcast station (as defined in section 397 of title 47); or
(iii) a radio subcarrier authorization (as defined in 47 CFR 73.293–73.295 and 73.593–73.595); or
(iv) a cable system (as defined in section 111 (f));
(9) performance on a single occasion of a dramatic literary work published at least ten years before the date of the performance, by or in the course of a transmission specifically designed for and primarily directed to blind or other handicapped persons who are unable to read normal printed material as a result of their handicap, if the performance is made without any purpose of direct or indirect commercial advantage and its transmission is made through the facilities of a radio subcarrier authorization referred to in clause (8)(iii), Provided, That the provisions of this clause shall not be applicable to more than one performance of the same work by the same performers or under the auspices of the same organization; and
(10) notwithstanding paragraph (4), the following is not an infringement of copyright: performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work in the course of a social function which is organized and promoted by a nonprofit veterans’ organization or a nonprofit fraternal organization to which the general public is not invited, but not including the invitees of the organizations, if the proceeds from the performance, after deducting the reasonable costs of producing the performance, are used exclusively for charitable purposes and not for financial gain. For purposes of this section the social functions of any college or university fraternity or sorority shall not be included unless the social function is held solely to raise funds for a specific charitable purpose.
The exemptions provided under paragraph (5) shall not be taken into account in any administrative, judicial, or other governmental proceeding to set or adjust the royalties payable to copyright owners for the public performance or display of their works. Royalties payable to copyright owners for any public performance or display of their works other than such performances or displays as are exempted under paragraph (5) shall not be diminished in any respect as a result of such exemption.
In paragraph (2), the term “mediated instructional activities” with respect to the performance or display of a work by digital transmission under this section refers to activities that use such work as an integral part of the class experience, controlled by or under the actual supervision of the instructor and analogous to the type of performance or display that would take place in a live classroom setting. The term does not refer to activities that use, in 1 or more class sessions of a single course, such works as textbooks, course packs, or other material in any media, copies or phonorecords of which are typically purchased or acquired by the students in higher education for their independent use and retention or are typically purchased or acquired for elementary and secondary students for their possession and independent use.
For purposes of paragraph (2), accreditation—
(A) with respect to an institution providing post-secondary education, shall be as determined by a regional or national accrediting agency recognized by the Council on Higher Education Accreditation or the United States Department of Education; and
(B) with respect to an institution providing elementary or secondary education, shall be as recognized by the applicable state certification or licensing procedures.
For purposes of paragraph (2), no governmental body or accredited nonprofit educational institution shall be liable for infringement by reason of the transient or temporary storage of material carried out through the automatic technical process of a digital transmission of the performance or display of that material as authorized under paragraph (2). No such material stored on the system or network controlled or operated by the transmitting body or institution under this paragraph shall be maintained on such system or network in a manner ordinarily accessible to anyone other than anticipated recipients. No such copy shall be maintained on the system or network in a manner ordinarily accessible to such anticipated recipients for a longer period than is reasonably necessary to facilitate the transmissions for which it was made.


159 posted on 02/02/2007 11:20:27 AM PST by in52engr
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
I hope I didn't give the impression that I have a problem with Sunday worship. Quite the contrary. The denomination where I attend worships on Sunday (and any other time they want to). My only point was that, even though man has tinkered with the calendar, adjusted dates, etc., the Sabbath has never changed. Jesus and his disciples kept the Sabbath and observant Jews (and others) keep it to this day. It just doesn't fall on the day of the week that we now refer to as Sunday (and yes, I read the arguments about a "Christian Sabbath", but to me, they are just doctrinal distinctions, not a condition of salvation). I have several close Christian friends who not only attend worship services on Sunday (the first day of the week) but also observe the Sabbath day as a day of rest, set aside by God. Not a problem.

I was only making an observation, but I should know by now that even little observations can become huge discussions here at Free Republic. (That's probably why I like this site so much).

160 posted on 02/02/2007 11:20:37 AM PST by Pablo64 (Ask me about my alpacas!)
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