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How did Mike Pence lose, his immigration bill and denying it was de facto amnesty? IMHO, Boehner is bad news.
1 posted on 02/01/2007 11:55:08 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The GOP is a rudderless ship today.


2 posted on 02/01/2007 11:57:31 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: neverdem
Luntz works for MSNBC if he was not very bad for the GOP MSNBC would not have hired him.
3 posted on 02/01/2007 12:02:12 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: neverdem

Frank Luntz...the Dick Morris of the Republicans as Morris was himself to the Clintons. Focus group it, poll it, pick the exact words that work, otherwise, shut up.

Now that's real leadership, boys. /sarcasm

I'm not saying the congressional Repubs aren't disconnected. They are, from the little people who put them there. But I don't mind a whit if they're disconnected from the likes of Luntz.


4 posted on 02/01/2007 12:02:37 PM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: neverdem

It had nothing to do with immigration.

It had to do with pork. Pork and denial.


5 posted on 02/01/2007 12:05:09 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Say No to Missus Clinton, I mean Biden is FUnnier)
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To: neverdem
How did Mike Pence lose, his immigration bill and denying it was de facto amnesty?

In hindsight, Mike Pence's plan will look great once the Democrats write and pass their immigration plan and Bush willingly signs it.

6 posted on 02/01/2007 12:05:32 PM PST by Always Right
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To: neverdem

GOP: We need to earmark to keep your seats
Pollster: If you don't do ethics reform and drop the earmarks you'll lose control.
GOP: We need to earmark to keep your seats
Pollster: look at the numbers
GOP: We need to earmark to keep your seats
GOP: We need to earmark to keep your seats
GOP: We need to earmark to keep your seats
Pollster: Forget it, I give up.


7 posted on 02/01/2007 12:07:21 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Say No to Missus Clinton, I mean Biden is FUnnier)
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To: neverdem

Any article writen by Novak is only good for lighting a fire. Novak is an anchor that drags amd rarely helps. His time of being benficial is long gone and he will be our next Helen Thomsa in just a few short years. Anyone CNN would keep on the air for a very long time speaks volumes of the person. Calling Novak a joke would be too kind.


9 posted on 02/01/2007 12:09:35 PM PST by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: neverdem

Now that is simple and to the point... Luntz is pretty freaking smart. Boehner is an idiot...


14 posted on 02/01/2007 12:36:55 PM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: neverdem
Gee How many times the Always Whining going to post this SAME story?

What happened is people like Novak and the Clowns at NRO and the 2nd rate Talk Radio hosts spend ALL their time attacking Republicans. They NEVER ever find the guts to either defend Conservatives or attack the Left on anything.

As long as the "Conservative" Media is so PR stupid as to spend all their shooting their own in the back 100% of the time, Conservatives will never win anything ever again.

Reagan kept the focus relentlessly on the Left. Too bad those who scream loudest about being Reagan's Heirs totally lack the guts to do the same thing.
17 posted on 02/01/2007 12:48:08 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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To: neverdem
The problem was the Republican's spent to much time trying to please the media and the Democrats and worried about what they thought but blew off what the people who elected them wanted which was lower taxes,smaller government,strong defense and judges who follow the constitution.What we got instead was a mega drug plan,more federal control over education giving the N.E.A. even more power,and while we're at let's not forget McLame's deal over the judges giving Democrats the ability to remove "offensive judges" all for maintaining collegiality in the senate.
They were afraid to rule now they going to be ruled by people who will shove through their agenda and won't be nice to the minority as the Republican's were.
The Republicans now believe they have to be Democrat lite which they think will get them votes further driving away their base and liberals are going to vote for the real thing anyway so they lose again.Lets not forget about the borders the are going to roll over and pat themselves on the back on their bi-partianship.
You Republicans want to win again start listening to the freepers they and like minded people were the one who bought your ticket to the dance in the first place.
21 posted on 02/01/2007 1:05:33 PM PST by bonehead4freedom (Rhinos don't win elections ,conservatives do !)
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To: neverdem

"While truth-telling is celebrated by Republican reformers such as presidential front-runner John McCain,"

Just gag me with a fork


25 posted on 02/01/2007 2:55:03 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: neverdem

Luntz was on Laura Ingraham and he made some very valid points about language and politics and White House communication.
For instance,the influx of troops should never have been called a surge by the White House because that gave the Democrats the opportunity to deem it " an escalation."
It should have been called a reinforcement , which is harder to criticize.
" IMHO, Boehner is bad news."
Can somebody keep Boehner out of the tanning booth ?
He looks like George Hamilton .


30 posted on 02/01/2007 4:43:33 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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