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The Note: Clean as a Whistle
ABC News ^ | 2/1/07 | Mark Halperin

Posted on 02/01/2007 8:08:22 AM PST by meg88

2008: Republicans: Giuliani

"The question is this: Can the thrice-married New Yorker — a supporter of abortion rights, gay rights and gun control — win the nomination of a Republican Party that has become increasingly dependent on and influenced by conservative Christians?," poses Susan Page of USA Today in her front page look at the conundrum Giuliani faces in his battle for the White House.

Note that Family Research Council's Tony Perkins finds Giuliani "unacceptable," and plans to take him out if he shows strength.

Note also Page marshalling data suggesting that Giuliani's liberal views are not well known within the party.

Jonathan Tamari of the Asbury Park Press reports that former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) has lined up an army of Garden State GOP supporters including nearly 300 legislators, chairmen, and mayors, and failed U.S. Senate candidate Tom Kean, Jr. New Jersey's presidential primary may be held as early as Feb. 5, 2008

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1 posted on 02/01/2007 8:08:24 AM PST by meg88
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To: meg88

Whoa! We are getting serious now!


2 posted on 02/01/2007 8:09:11 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: meg88

If you're a Republican mayor of NYC, you're a Rockefeller Republican. You don't get elected up here otherwise.


3 posted on 02/01/2007 8:10:08 AM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: TommyDale

This is going to be the longest campaign in history. Only 23 1/2 months till inaguration day!


4 posted on 02/01/2007 8:10:38 AM PST by meg88
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To: TommyDale

this could end up very much like the threats the Terry Schaivo crowd made against Charlie Crist. In the end Christ dispatched Tom Gallegher easily and won by 5% over the DEM in a DEM year with a loser at the head of the GOP ticket for Senate.

Ive noticed that the religious right can be more emotional than logical and calculating....if they try and take him out and he wins, kiss the religious conservatives good bye forever....the religious right will be in the odd position of supporting Hillary for President


5 posted on 02/01/2007 8:13:08 AM PST by Oct1967
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To: meg88; areafiftyone; Peach; Howlin; MadIvan

Opposition to Rino Rudy ping.


6 posted on 02/01/2007 8:13:21 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President.)
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To: meg88

That's quite a headline. I think shooting him would be pretty inappropriate. ;)


7 posted on 02/01/2007 8:13:27 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: meg88
"This is going to be the longest campaign in history. Only 23 1/2 months till inaguration day!"

LOL! You are right. After the last few days, some of us may suffer strokes, heart attacks, heartburn, insomnia and general discomfort.

8 posted on 02/01/2007 8:13:55 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: Zeroisanumber
If you're a Republican mayor of NYC, you're a Rockefeller Republican. You don't get elected up here otherwise.

Fine. But since the vast majority of Republicans nationwide are NOT one of those, you never get nominated by the national party to run for President.

9 posted on 02/01/2007 8:13:57 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: meg88
Only 23 1/2 months till inaguration day!

By then the only candidate left standing will be the Town Manager of Drycrust Montana!

10 posted on 02/01/2007 8:14:36 AM PST by AU72
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To: Oct1967

What was Dole's position on gays & guns back in 1996?


11 posted on 02/01/2007 8:15:07 AM PST by meg88
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To: linda_22003

Some of these "groups" take themselves way too seriously. Lets hear what Rudy has to say in the primaries on these issues.

Regardless the number one issue is national security. Rudy, McCain, Newt and the others will defend you. Osama or Hillary will not.


12 posted on 02/01/2007 8:15:31 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: Oct1967

How about we drop the categories and just nominate a candidate who supports the party platform?


13 posted on 02/01/2007 8:15:46 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Oct1967
"Ive noticed that the religious right can be more emotional than logical and calculating...."

What many of you mistake for "emotional" is actually moral and religious convictions and principles.

14 posted on 02/01/2007 8:15:51 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: meg88

Whatever it was, Dole lost.


15 posted on 02/01/2007 8:15:53 AM PST by RockinRight (What I want in '08: Gingrich's politics, Reagan's appeal, and Tancredo's immigration stance.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Fine. But since the vast majority of Republicans nationwide are NOT one of those, you never get nominated by the national party to run for President.

Would you rather have Rudy or Hillary? Because with the war on, we either run a moderate or lose the White House.

16 posted on 02/01/2007 8:16:21 AM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Hydroshock

And why should I pay any more attention to the Family Research Council than you all pay to the fact that Pat Robertson thinks Rudy would make a good president?


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/5/1/102522.shtml


17 posted on 02/01/2007 8:16:30 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Patrick1

I agree. National security has to come before any social issues, or there will be no country left in which to dicker over the social issues.


18 posted on 02/01/2007 8:16:38 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: meg88

19 posted on 02/01/2007 8:16:47 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: meg88

Sometimes the best is the enemy of the good.

Would they have "taken out" Ronald Reagan because he was divorced, or because he had an earlier record as a labor union guy, or because he once supported abortion?

It remains to be seen what Rudy will do about these issues, but closing your eyes and declaring that you refuse to even look at someone is politically stupid.

If they take that attitude, they will predicatably end up supporting some unknown candidate who will never get more than 3% of the vote. It's far too early to write Rudy off.

McCain, yes. McCain has a proven record of treachery and insane behavior. Pataki, yes. Pataki has a record of actually working for abortion, which Rudy, despite his earlier statements, does not. And just consider their records in office. Pataki betrayed all his campaign promises and left the state in a mess. Rudy kept his promises, and left the city far better than he found it.

Life and family are bottom line issues for me, but it's far too early to write Giuliani off on these issues. Let's see how it develops first. I would support Duncan Hunter if he manages to make himself known and goes head to head with Rudy, but let's see if he can do it, eh?


20 posted on 02/01/2007 8:17:02 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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