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Germany seeks to arrest 13 CIA operatives
Herald tribune Europe ^ | 1/31/07 | IHT

Posted on 01/31/2007 9:20:21 PM PST by Mark Felton

FRANKFURT: In the most serious legal challenge yet to the Central Intelligence Agency's secret transfer of terrorism suspects, a German court has issued an arrest warrant for 13 people in the mistaken kidnapping and jailing of a German citizen of Lebanese descent.

Prosecutors in Munich said the suspects, whom they did not identify, were part of a CIA "abduction team," which seized the man, Khaled el-Masri, in Macedonia in late 2003 and flew him to Afghanistan. He was imprisoned there for five months and has said he was shackled, beaten and interrogated about his alleged ties to Al Qaeda before being released without charges.

His ordeal is the best-documented case of the CIA's practice of "extraordinary rendition," in which terrorism suspects were seized and sent for interrogation to countries where torture is practiced.

Stern said investigators would seek to establish the true identities of the 13 people, most of whom are believed to use aliases. They include the four- member crew of the Boeing 737 that picked up Masri, as well as a mechanic and several CIA operatives, people familiar with the case said.

The issuing of an arrest warrant represents a major expansion of the legal assault on the CIA's rendition program in Europe. Italian prosecutors are seeking indictments against 25 CIA operatives and Italy's former intelligence chief for the kidnapping of a militant Egyptian cleric in 2003.

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On Wednesday, a German radio station, NDR, revealed what it said were the names of the 13 people — 11 men and two women.

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"This is unbelievably important for our case," Gnjidic said in an interview. "It's the first direct sign of the German government against the CIA that they did the wrong thing."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; snatchandgrab
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1 posted on 01/31/2007 9:20:22 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton
This should be interesting.
2 posted on 01/31/2007 9:22:38 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser: Making fascism fashionable in Kaleeforia, one charade at a time.)
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To: Mark Felton

But but but we're a sovereign nation? What? They did what????


3 posted on 01/31/2007 9:24:28 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Mark Felton

This is pretty small potatoes. If the various governments of the world really wish to get involved in aiding and abetting terrorism, why don't they pony up and initiate programs by which terrorists can obtain false passports, false visas, disguises, weapons, and cash? It would be so much more effective.


4 posted on 01/31/2007 9:26:14 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Mark Felton

Maybe they should spend more time on hunting down the terrorist instead of the CIA!


5 posted on 01/31/2007 9:28:46 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Keating -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: Jack Hammer

Actually once the terrorist crosses the open border into the US they can go to any Fiesta grocery store in the US and get false social security #'s, drivers licenses, untraceable cell phones, unregistered cars, sunglasses, prayer mats and xxx magazines.


6 posted on 01/31/2007 9:31:20 PM PST by Mark Felton ("Wisdom is supreme...and though it cost all you have, get understanding" -- Proverbs 4)
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To: Mark Felton

The only way Germany will ever arrest any of the 13 for their supposed crime is if they set foot in Germany or another country that will extradite them to Germany, or if Germany sends their agents here on an extraordinary rendition mission of their own. The current U.S. administration isn't going to extradite them.


7 posted on 01/31/2007 9:32:35 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Mark Felton

Considering that f-ing Germany harbored some of the key conspirators in the 9/11 plot, they are the last place on earth that should get in a lather about counter-terrorism measures. Instead, they should focus upon getting their own sad house in order.


8 posted on 01/31/2007 9:32:46 PM PST by Enchante (Chamberlain Democrats embraced by terrorists and America-haters worldwide!!)
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To: Mark Felton

Our position should be that the agents don't exist, the kidnapping never occurred, the agency the non-existent agents don't work for doesn't know anything about it, and in fact it doesn't exist either.


9 posted on 01/31/2007 9:39:02 PM PST by marron
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To: Mark Felton

It suggests a new publicity campaign - "It's a terrorist fiesta at Fiesta - olay!"

Uh.. sorry about that "olay." I haven't got the proper diacritics for an "ole."

However, I submit that the situation you describe is a CIA-backed counter-terrorist scheme. It's those xxx magazines, you know. All those young Moslem males will disable their gun hands with extended monkey slapping and chicken choking. Let's just hope the magazine racks hold plenty of copies of Playgirl - and, for that matter, Playcamel and Playgoat.


10 posted on 01/31/2007 9:41:44 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

--Playcamel and Playgoat.--

They need to look up Robert Redford and his bestiality-mongering buddies at the Sundance festival.


11 posted on 01/31/2007 9:57:09 PM PST by rfp1234 (Custom-built for Bill Clinton: the new Toyota Priapus.)
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To: Jack Hammer
If the various governments of the world really wish to get involved in aiding and abetting terrorism, why don't they pony up and initiate programs by which terrorists can obtain false passports, false visas, disguises, weapons, and cash?

Maybe we should do that first here in this country. With 30 million illegals, most with various forms of false papers, we seem only to talk about security, not actually improve it.

We should operate security the way Israel does. Anything less will never stop terrorists. Until we do that, the world is correct to conclude that we're not serious about terrorism.
12 posted on 01/31/2007 9:58:58 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: marron

Turning over the agents would compromise agents in the field. Use the Fitzmas defense.


13 posted on 01/31/2007 10:04:51 PM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: Mark Felton

Macedonia is not in Germany. Among other things, where is their jurisdiction?


14 posted on 01/31/2007 10:08:12 PM PST by Ingtar (Guliani, McCain, Clinton. Choice is an illusion.)
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To: PhiKapMom

You just took the words out of my mouth. But considering Germany's past we should not be surprised.


15 posted on 01/31/2007 10:10:24 PM PST by lndrvr1972
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To: Mark Felton
Letters of Marque and Reprisal. Congress should issue one or more of those against any prosecutor or court dumb enough to interfere.
16 posted on 01/31/2007 10:55:40 PM PST by sourcery
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"On Wednesday, a German radio station, NDR, revealed what it said were the names of the 13 people — 11 men and two women."

I hope one of them is Valerie Plame.


17 posted on 02/01/2007 1:13:46 AM PST by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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To: marron
Our position should be that the agents don't exist, the kidnapping never occurred, the agency the non-existent agents don't work for doesn't know anything about it, and in fact it doesn't exist either.

that reminds me of an old Onion article entitled CIA Denies CIA Founding
18 posted on 02/01/2007 2:00:16 AM PST by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: Mark Felton

I'm sure we're all so blase when foreign countries kidnap our citizens. "Oh, they were a terrorist, if you say so I'll believe you absolutely". We went to war with England in 1812 over Americans being pressed off of our vessels. I hardly think Germanies' reaction is overboard.


19 posted on 02/01/2007 2:23:28 AM PST by amchugh
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To: Enchante
Considering that f-ing Germany harbored some of the key conspirators in the 9/11 plot, they are the last place on earth that should get in a lather about counter-terrorism measures. Instead, they should focus upon getting their own sad house in order.

Um...so did the States right up until that horrific day.

20 posted on 02/01/2007 3:31:31 AM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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