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After the Thumping
Opinion Journal ^ | 31 Jan 07 | Charles R. Kesler

Posted on 01/31/2007 10:06:06 AM PST by rellimpank

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1 posted on 01/31/2007 10:06:10 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
"In their hearts, he knows they're Right."

He is right. He just never did it. The vast majority of "republicans" know if elected again he would fail republicans again.

Einstein once said, "You cannot get out of a situation with the same mindset that go you into it in the first place."

We need to put Republicans into office if we want smaller government, lower taxes individual rights and constitutional freedom.
2 posted on 01/31/2007 10:16:58 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: rellimpank

Excellent piece.

Don't just react - THINK.


3 posted on 01/31/2007 10:20:04 AM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: rellimpank; trooprally; cgk

A teaspoon of water in a pitcher of sewage gets you SEWAGE.

A teaspoon of sewage in a pitcher of water gets you SEWAGE.

Time for a season of Conservative and Republican repentance and revival, so that the terms may once again be synonymous.

That-which-has-seeped into the GOP from the Democratic swamp must be filtered out, EARLY in each race.

"If My People, which are called by My Name, shall humble themselves..."


4 posted on 01/31/2007 10:24:05 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: rellimpank

Well, as this writer says, conservatism is up for grabs. He is quite right to suggest that President Bush failed to cut spending, and indeed has managed to expand the government while not even trying to weed out the clintonoids and carterites who are basically running the bureaucracy.

Where he is strangely silent, however, is on everything else EXCEPT fiscal conservatism. How about the right to life? How about the right to bear arms? How about the right not to have tyrannical liberal judges redefine marriage and morality for us? How about freedom of religion? How about the right to pray in school or mention the name of God? How about an end to racial and gender favoritism, so all are treated equally before the law?

Those are all issues where the great majority of the country actually IS conservative. And those are some of the issues on which the Republicans in congress betrayed their base.

Bush has been strong on the right to life, but he has not gotten a whole lot of support from the Senate on these issues.


5 posted on 01/31/2007 10:27:42 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

PING!


6 posted on 01/31/2007 10:28:12 AM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: PhiKapMom; Miss Marple; onyx; deport; Peach; areafiftyone; JimFreedom; Mo1; Txsleuth; McGavin999; ..
The notion that a steady conservative majority exists, waiting only to be activated by the right Republican appeal, thus makes for bad GOP strategy. It lures Republicans into thinking their job is easier than it is, by disguising the hard truth that victory still depends on persuading, not merely reminding, a crucial segment of the electorate to think conservative and vote Republican.
7 posted on 01/31/2007 10:33:02 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Howlin
BUMP
8 posted on 01/31/2007 10:35:57 AM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: Howlin
Persuasion is the key, and apparently a lot of people on Free Republic, in talk radio, and in the conservative movement don't understand this.

Conservatives are handicapped by the public opinion that they are uncaring, parsimonious concerning anything except the military, and react only to the opinions of James Dobson and Pat Robertson.

None of these things is true, but it puzzles me why people think that moderates can be persuaded towards conservatism by insults, jokes about suffering people, and rants about people who aren't evangelical Christians. If you want to persuade people, this is not the way to go.

Politics, at the most basic level, is about making friends. If someone insulted and mocked you or something you cared about, why would you consider that person a friend?

I have to assume a lot of people who post here are either clueless about what it takes to win, or they are democrats trying to stampede conservatives into destructive behavior.

9 posted on 01/31/2007 10:40:23 AM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping....good article...although the writer seemed more optimistic than I am right now about our "party" getting together.

BTW..I saw a blurb a little while ago on C-span that said that Gov. Pataki of NY is thinking of running for POTUS...his take on Iraq: he doesn't LIKE the Bush plan.


10 posted on 01/31/2007 10:41:04 AM PST by Txsleuth (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: rellimpank

I'm sorry, I was distracted after the bit about McCain being a "conservative spokesperson".

Say whaaa?


11 posted on 01/31/2007 10:44:00 AM PST by brothers4thID (Hillary: "We are going to take from you.. to provide for the common good")
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To: edcoil
We need to put Republicans into office if we want smaller government, lower taxes individual rights and constitutional freedom.

Republicans or Conservatives?

12 posted on 01/31/2007 10:45:43 AM PST by kipita (Conservatives: Freedom and Responsibility------Liberals: Freedom from Responsibility)
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To: edcoil
We need to put Republicans into office if we want smaller government, lower taxes individual rights and constitutional freedom.

Well, you'll get lower taxes.

13 posted on 01/31/2007 10:47:24 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: Spirochete

Only temporary ones - they they rarely sunset a burden the taxes are temporary reductions. Offset by increased and new fees.


14 posted on 01/31/2007 10:49:37 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil
We need to put Republicans into office if we want smaller government, lower taxes, individual rights and constitutional freedom.

Didn't seem to work for the 1994-2006 "Revolution".

15 posted on 01/31/2007 10:50:51 AM PST by Teacher317 (Are you familiar with the writings of Shan Yu?)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thanks for the ping... BFLR! :))))


16 posted on 01/31/2007 10:55:45 AM PST by cgk (Republicanism didn't make Conservatives a majority. Conservatism made Republicans a majority. [NEWT])
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To: Howlin
That will go over a lot of heads, but I thought I'd repeat it:

The notion that a steady conservative majority exists, waiting only to be activated by the right Republican appeal, thus makes for bad GOP strategy. It lures Republicans into thinking their job is easier than it is, by disguising the hard truth that victory still depends on persuading, not merely reminding, a crucial segment of the electorate to think conservative and vote Republican.

17 posted on 01/31/2007 10:59:26 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Txsleuth
I grew up in the Republican Party and have watched from the early sixties on the vitriol expended on those who were different from what used to be "country-club Republicans" vs. the "John Birchers", the "Bible Belt Christians" vs. the "Catholics" and "Jews". I've never seen such a waste of time among people who should be pulling together on important issues like, say "survival". The joke in college in a very republican county was "Young Democrats" were everywhere, but no one could find "Young Republicans" because there weren't any.

Well, there were and there still are, but while the rest of the folks squabble over "Mormons" vs. "Bible Belt Christians" (and while there are still some folks out there who don't even realize Catholics are Christians -- talk about ignorant), while we argue over whether "pot" should be legal or "cigarettes" should be illegal, we fiddle while Rome burns, and I can't say we're any different today than 45 years ago. Only difference I can see in politics now is that the Democrats are even MORE vitriolic and hateful to each other.

There are certain irrefutable principles upon which we must unite and then table the rest of the crap for your next family get-together with Crazy Uncle Ray or balmy Aunt Edna.
18 posted on 01/31/2007 10:59:35 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: kipita
Republicans or Conservatives?

When you ask questions like that, you're part of the problem.

19 posted on 01/31/2007 11:00:58 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Peach

Not over my head...but, I appreciate the repeat!!

Can't be said too many times.


20 posted on 01/31/2007 11:06:08 AM PST by Txsleuth (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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