Posted on 01/31/2007 8:46:24 AM PST by Antoninus
Political analyst and former Democrat insider Keith Thompson says even though Duncan Hunter is considered a long-shot for the White House, the California congressman could move into the top tier of GOP hopefuls as the 2008 presidential campaign progresses.
Hunter officially entered the 2008 presidential "sweepstakes" last week, Thompson notes. He says the candidate, as the former chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, has a strong conservative voting record working in his favor; and he is particularly known for his support of the military and his opposition to illegal immigration.
For these reasons, Thompson feels the California representative is at the top of the second tier of Republican hopefuls right now and is capable of moving up. Hunter has "a fairly decent financial base right now [and] some key supporters who are helping him get his campaign to the next level," the political analyst points out; "so I think he could come right into that first tier very quickly and be a significant candidate for the nomination."
Hunter's biggest problem is name recognition, Thompson acknowledges. He says that is one advantage early GOP favorites John McCain and Rudy Giuliani have over the California lawmaker.
But even though Hunter does not come in with the years of exposure that those virtually "mythological figures" have, Thompson observes, he says "the name recognition factor could change," and Hunter could become a force to be reckoned with in the coming 2008 presidential campaign.
Coming from YOU it is a compliment.
You were so 'confident' that no one would be able to find ANY threads prior to Nov. mentioning Hunter [LIAR I said a "handful"] when the fact is he has been in the news [Very occasionally] and a powerful member of Congress [just as he is a "powerful" candidate, lol].
"Who knows it? Besides McCain's strong draw wasnt for his military service, it was for his POW status. Americans always love a victim."
Your arguments get more and more absurd.
"Wrong! You do know what pork is, right. What our country needs is effective spending on defense, not paying to keep outdated and unncecessary bases open in a congressman's district to keep him in power."
You're downright paranoid.
"Did a lot of good, hey? One man preaching to the choir and getting no media exposure doesnt sound like anyone who can jump from less than one percent to fiftyone percent of even the Republican vote much less the general electorate."
You made a good case in why Hunter needs to be GOP nominee! None of those other turkeys are even capable of speaking out. BTW, Hunter has apparently caught up to Romney in the latest Fox poll, LOL. Start somewhere and he will only GAIN. Enjoy! LOL
None of these guys are spotless but you are correct about those who would sling outrageous lies against them. There are enough truths which can be used to damage all of them.
We have seen far too much of the damage lies can cause FR on other threads.
He's caught up to Romney in the latest poll, LOL. Hot, hot, hot! Like I said, quit'cher whinin' and live up to your screenname. But you do like those RINOS so obviously you don't live up to your marketing.
The american people are ready for a true conservative president. [You may honestly believe that but there is NO evidence it is true. At best 35% of the electorate calls itself conservative and many of those are anything but. Conservatives were crushed almost across the board last election as moderates and independents stopping voting GOP. Every conservative running for the Senate was defeated and many in the House.]
Why don't you go join the Demonrat party then? You seem to think the GOP should resemble the Demonrats!
I listen far less than I used too but still tune in about three times a week. I like Rush but find his analysis all over the lot sometimes brilliant like last summer wrt the NY Times treason sometimes muddled. Most of his parodies I find hilarious. But I can only listen to so many commercials, nonsense about golf, his high life, and personal issues.
Rush is one of my heroes and I love him but that does not mean I believe him to be 100% correct. In addition, I find him knowledge of history is shallow and he appears to be without significant cultural interests. (G. Gordon Libby is FAR more substantial in both areas.)
In any case I gave you a few examples of Rush making incorrect or damaging statements.
"Why don't you follow the advice of your screenname??"
Because you hurt my feeeelings so by not understanding the concept of irony, I changed it. That better?
"Get over yourself and trying to tell people who, God forbid, dare to have the *audacity* to support Duncan Hunter because we actually think he would make an awesome candidate and one of the greatest Presidents, we are 'fanatical' and 'dangerous'." I have never called anyone fanatical or dangerous merely because they support Duncan Hunter or ANY candidate in the primaries. If they recognize and admit they are trying to pull off an EXTREME long shot they are neither. If they, as many have, launch into hysterical attacks on those who have a MUCH better chance then they are both.
If they LIE and claim Guiliani, McCain and Romney are only where they are in the polls because the Lamestream media PUTS them there then they are fanatics, dangerous AND liars.
People who follow politics seriously understand that great PATIENCE is needed in order to be successful over the long run. Conservativism can only go as far as the American electorate will let it and this electorate has ALWAYS rejected the extremes of the political spectrum right and left.
Political movements flow back and forth not always forward. Conservativism has been thwarted and forced back by the Treason Media and suffered a big defeat in Nov principally because those previously inclined to vote GOP, though not Republican, were frightened away by "extremism" in the GOP. That was a false impression but effective nevertheless.
Given these facts there is NO chance that ANY hard core conservative will win a national election. VERY few can even win a state wide election. Our most conservative Senators were thrown out en masse EVERYONE which ran.
Thus, the best that we can REALISTICALLY hope for is a holding action running a moderate conservative candidate for president and a hardline conservative for VP. Tactical retreats are just as necessary at times in political campaigns as in military ones.
Guiliani is strong in the issues/qualities most important to the nation: strong national security policies, strong support for law and order, fighter against corruption, ability to articulate his views and win the support of all kinds of people across the nation, fearlessness, determination, executive ability, and support for tax reduction. NONE of the other issues come close to those in importance.
EVERY conservative is a tall order, I don't buy it. What are the numbers on voter turn out in major elections. Personaly I can't stand to even listen to interviews by these nuckle head gop guys any more much less the DNC. The GOP didn't pass any legislation on immigration. If they would have done that they would still be in office. I'm curious to know your definition of conservative is.
"He's caught up to Romney in the latest poll," which poll (which you give no credence to anyway) would that be? The OuttaYourAss poll, the OYA?
"Like I said, quit'cher whinin' and live up to your screenname." What would I have to whine about I don't mind that Hunter is running or even doing better or well?
As to my screenname it is intended to provoke conversation rather than suppress it. Look up "ironic" in the dictionary.
Why don't you go join the Demonrat party then? [Since I believe (other than in 1846-8) it is more dangerous to the Nation than the alternative I wouldn't do that.] You seem to think the GOP should resemble the Demonrats! [Only in having the American voter not fear it.]
Which conservative running for the Senate won re-election?
Allen, Santorum, Burns, Talent represent the heart of Senate conservativism. All lost. Even Chafee lost to one more left than he. No big deal that one.
"The GOP didn't pass any legislation on immigration. If they would have done that they would still be in office." Very silly idea. The HOUSE did exactly that and it was removed from GOP control as one of the MOST outspoken GOPers on this issue was defeated (JD Hayworth). Americans do not want an extreme response to this. They may support feel good projects like a fench but will NOT support policies leading to the deportation of family heads when there are children involved who are American citizens.
This issue was critical in whipping up distrust of the GOP since ALL the demonstrations in the Spring were created, planned, manned and controlled by Democrat politicians and their surrogates. By running these demonstrations they were able to undermine the GOP as I repeatedly WARNED those being manipulated by them last spring. No one with even half a brain will say the Democrats will do anything positive about this issue. It has no value other than as a means of weakening the GOP.
"I'm curious to know your definition of conservative is." That is not so easy since the meaning of the word has changed over the last couple of centuries. Conservativism is NOT hide-bound reactionary views, it is NOT a refusal to change. My view is that it seeks to reduce government control over the economy to the extent possible. Some influence cannot be dispensed with. It puts as #1 priority the protection of the Union. It tries to avoid excessive interference with individual's lives.
In 1776 conservatives were the Tories so I would not have been a conservative then. In 1861 conservatives sought to conserve slavery rather than the Union so I would not have been a conservative then.
My view is conservativism is what was called "Classical Liberalism". I am a Nationalist above all else particularly since there is no real agreement as to what a conservative really is. People whom 90% of the population considers conservative are called "RINOS" here or worse.
"If they LIE and claim Guiliani, McCain and Romney are only where they are in the polls because the Lamestream media PUTS them there then they are fanatics, dangerous AND liars."
They are only there because they are the ONLY names that have been consistently fed to the masses. So, of course, those with 'name recognition' are going to get the most attention and mention in polls to begin with. And you really need to stop with the personal attacks that are out of line. It is fanatical and dangerous that you are consumed by all this panic in the thought that Duncan Hunter might actually make an impact, as you obviously are in your repeated posts in these threads and you are extremely condescending.
Let me tell you what I think a conservative is, not some white washed text book robotic response.
real simple:
#1 Strong family-parents have the right to know what their kids are up to. None of this planned parenthood government assisted abortion without the family being able to know about it. Giving out free condoms and all this other nonsense
#2 The governents primary role is protecting the people hence a strong military
#3 Less government regulation on business
#4 low taxes
#5 A welfare program that holds people accountable
#6 A SMALLER GOVERNMENT
You leave the definition of conservatism up to the people who are running things. You determine who runs things by voting. I have the power to vote, that what i believe in, and thats how im gonna vote.
Let me tell you what I think a conservative is, not some white washed text book robotic response.
real simple:
#1 Strong family-parents have the right to know what their kids are up to. None of this planned parenthood government assisted abortion without the family being able to know about it. Giving out free condoms and all this other nonsense
#2 The governents primary role is protecting the people hence a strong military
#3 Less government regulation on business
#4 low taxes
#5 A welfare program that holds people accountable
#6 A SMALLER GOVERNMENT
You leave the definition of conservatism up to the people who are running things. You determine who runs things by voting. I have the power to vote, that what i believe in, and thats how im gonna vote.
You support Giuliani or McCain, Romney, go right ahead, but in spite of you not liking it, people who believe in Hunter will let others know that there is another horse in this race. You cannot censor or tell us it is impossible. It is a primary for a reason.
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