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California mulls ban on incandescent light bulbs
Times Argus ^ | 1/31/07 | By Kate Folmar San Jose Mercury News

Posted on 01/31/2007 8:05:18 AM PST by Jean S

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — It may soon be lights out for the traditional light bulb in California.

Assemblyman Lloyd Levine, D-Van Nuys, is proposing that the Golden State become the first to ban sales of incandescent light bulbs, by 2012. In their place, Californians could purchase more energy-efficient compact fluorescent lamps. Those are the spiral-shaped bulbs that cost more upfront but save money and energy over the long haul. Switching light bulbs is an idea that environmentalists have long supported. But getting consumers to embrace change has been slow going.

Banning energy-intensive incandescents "saves consumers money, saves the state money and saves energy," said Levine, who calls his measure the "How Many Legislators Does it Take to Change a Light Bulb Act."

But, "when a consumer is standing in a store and they're confronted with two different products, they generally opt for the one that is cheaper and the one they've traditionally bought," he said. "The problem is: The one they think is cheaper is only cheap at that moment in time. The other one is cheaper over the long run."

The compact fluorescent bulbs cost several times more than a traditional bulb, but they last 10 times as long. Replacing just one bulb that's used for four to eight hours a day can save a consumer $4 to $13 a year and $38 to $72 after five years, according to the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: conservation; electricity; energy; fluorescent; incandescent; lightbulbs; lloydlevine; three
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1 posted on 01/31/2007 8:05:19 AM PST by Jean S
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To: JeanS

I really hope this is an 'across the board' banning of incandescents }:-)

Just so I can watch all the car manufactures try to figure out how to retrofit (or even make) compact flourescent that are bright enough and actually fit into the billion little places where incandescent bulbs are in a car!

They wouldn't make such a stupid bill without recoginizing the non-household uses if incandescent, would they?


2 posted on 01/31/2007 8:11:45 AM PST by PissAndVinegar (Just Trolling by..... ;-)
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To: JeanS

They want to ban light bulbs now??

Where do they find these people?


3 posted on 01/31/2007 8:12:17 AM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: JeanS

Looks like there will be an alternate income stream for the drug smugglers in the People's Republik of Kalifornia. Next on the list:

BUTTER


4 posted on 01/31/2007 8:12:18 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: PissAndVinegar

and for the record - I like CFLs and use them when ever I can in the house. They have gotten much better/brighter in recent years.


5 posted on 01/31/2007 8:13:37 AM PST by PissAndVinegar (Just Trolling by..... ;-)
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To: JeanS

No spanking, no incandescents, California is on a roll this year.

What do we do for lights where instant-on is needed (sorry, LEDs aren't there yet)? What do we do for dimmer lights? What do we do for installations where you WANT the heat?

Go ahead, tell your daughter she has to run her Easy Bake Oven off of a 14W CF bulb.


6 posted on 01/31/2007 8:14:26 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: PissAndVinegar

Make them so they don't fit into conventional sockets. That way everyone has to buy new lights. Including the state and cities for street lights.


7 posted on 01/31/2007 8:15:47 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: JeanS

And what about that historic lamp thats still burning at the Oakland fire station....an original DeFlemming or somesuch from the 1800's.....is Arnie and the environazis going to extinguish this flame of innovation?


8 posted on 01/31/2007 8:16:29 AM PST by spokeshave (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
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To: JeanS

And what about that historic lamp thats still burning at the Oakland fire station....an original DeFlemming or somesuch from the 1800's.....is Arnie and the environazis going to extinguish this flame of innovation?


9 posted on 01/31/2007 8:16:33 AM PST by spokeshave (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
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To: Mo1
They want to ban light bulbs now?? Where do they find these people?

Go to any cattle farm and behind the barn there is a huge pile of them!!!!!

10 posted on 01/31/2007 8:17:20 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: PissAndVinegar
This is going to sound really shallow but fluorescent lighting, presently found in laundromats and bus stations, is EXTREMELY unflattering light to be seen in. I won't have it in the house. There must be a better way to save energy and resources than this...and BTW, I don't appreciate the condescending remark of this Levine jerk that consumers will buy whatever's in front of them that's cheapest, and are incapable of understanding value for money. Liberal elitist dork.
11 posted on 01/31/2007 8:17:54 AM PST by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: JeanS

Umm maybe a good job to do in my retirement would be to smuggle light bulbs and shower heads to California.


12 posted on 01/31/2007 8:18:20 AM PST by FlatLandBeer
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To: JeanS

If I install CFBs in my house and my neigbor doesn't can I sue him for 'second-hand light'?

Really, California is just too weird...


13 posted on 01/31/2007 8:20:59 AM PST by Leg Olam ("Somethings got to go, either me or that wallpaper.." last words, Oscar Wilde)
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To: JeanS
The CFL is a great idea, and a product that should be encouraged by everyone... but making laws to force us to buy a better product is not a good use of government... and is a really bad habit for them to get hooked on.

Unfortunately, we're at least halfway down that little slippery slope already.

14 posted on 01/31/2007 8:20:59 AM PST by Teacher317 (Are you familiar with the writings of Shan Yu?)
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To: PissAndVinegar
NEVER underestimate the stupidity of a professional politician.
15 posted on 01/31/2007 8:22:09 AM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe
This is going to sound really shallow but fluorescent lighting, presently found in laundromats and bus stations, is EXTREMELY unflattering light to be seen in. I won't have it in the house.

Compact fluorescents come in different color ranges. You'll probably like the daylight ones, which look a lot better than the yellowish incandescent tinge.

16 posted on 01/31/2007 8:28:41 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: JeanS
The Kalifornia legislature is beyond stupid.

I met a representative at the beach here in San Diego and God please forgive me but this gals brain was made of
ex Valley Girl, Acid and Prozac all rolled into one and stuffed between two stupid looking ears.

Her companion wasn't much brighter with goofy ideas on how Kalifornians should live their lives.

The question is not whether Kalifornia will survive but when it goes down hard will it take good states like Texas and Oklahoma with it into the cesspool of mediocrity.
17 posted on 01/31/2007 8:29:37 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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To: JeanS

No, consumers go for the light that is pleasing and not that harsh flourescent bulb.

The compacts are only good for industrial use, for the home it is still incandecent.

What next light bulb smuggling for the rich people?

What will photographers do?

What happens when LED lights hit the market?

Is there a Compact Florecent bulb factory in the state?


18 posted on 01/31/2007 8:38:27 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: antiRepublicrat

"You'll probably like the daylight ones, which look a lot better than the yellowish incandescent tinge."

I prefer to think of it as "golden" but I see what you mean, it's good to know there are some nice looking fluorescent lights.


19 posted on 01/31/2007 8:39:35 AM PST by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: FlatLandBeer

Years ago they used to smuggle magarine into Wisconsin. There might be money in bulb-running!


20 posted on 01/31/2007 8:41:56 AM PST by Fairview
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