Posted on 01/30/2007 4:18:03 AM PST by naturalman1975
NEW Zealand's foreign minister has warned Kiwis to stop taking cheap shots at Australia and the US and instead recognise what they do in the Pacific region.
Winston Peters tonight said some New Zealand groups took great delight in creating anti-Australian and anti-American sentiment.
He said there seemed to be an "irrational, and growing, sense of sport among some quarters in New Zealand where it is considered a perverse badge of honour to take cheap shots at the Australians and Americans".
"These groups are quick to criticise what they disagree with and so slow to acknowledge the huge effort that both nations put into the Pacific and beyond," Mr Peters said in an address to the Orewa Rotary Club.
Mr Peters - in a speech that focused heavily on Fiji's latest coup - said the collaboration of New Zealand, Australia and the US was critical in the Pacific.
"We need the United States, as well as Australia, to be intimately engaged in the Pacific if we are to be successful in our own endeavours," he told the gathering on the North Island.
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Without Australia and the US, there would be no New Zealand and they know it and it pisses them off. They are living in socialist fantasy land living under security provided by their
betters.
New Zealand is a beautiful country, with wonderful people. But I'm not surprised that, as they read the news, surf the net and watch television, it irks them that EnZed shares so little of the world spotlight. After a while, you start to feel left out.
I think Canadians probably get the same feeling, and the same snarkiness results.
Another NZ ping.
And the other way around, too (Aussies against New Zealanders and Americans against Canadians).
I have been going to New Zealand regularly since 1994. Each year I see a very few of these types. They are to world opinion what the gays are back here, able to acheive an inordinate amount of support by way of biased sympathetic media to FLASELY suggest greater public support to their world view.
Hate to disagree, but the New Zealanders are not "wonderful people". They have become European style leftists down there and their culture is showing the same weaknesses as Europe. I lived there for 2 years and finally departed because of the nasty, negative attitude of NZer's toward foreigners in general, and Americans and Aussies, in particular. Even my kids were subject to their nasty, uninformed hate. Physically a beautiful country, but rotten on the inside and getting worse. They have a very serious inferiority complex.
Well now that is depressing. We know that liberalism, socialism, etc. destroy everything they touch. But I hoped that NZ was immune somehow.
Again, sorry to disagree, but I also visited NZ annually for 15 years until I lived there for 2 years. In the "tourist" areas they are good to Americans as they know they tip and pay and it's good business. However, once in the the "regular work environment", they are nasty small minded, brainwashed people. In business meetings, transactions with vendors and customers, and in social situations I found them, most of them, to be rude, uninformed and highly opinionated about things they actually knew little about. Not a nice country.
Australia should help us get NZ back by training us to become better at cricket, and capable of beating NZ. Then we can throw it in their faces. Wouldn't that be great?
While I do love the All Blacks Rugby Team, it would do New Zealand, as a country, good to have the All Blacks thrashed by the Aussies and South Africa. They need a little dose of "world" reality. Their cricket team isn't much, but the All Blacks are world class and arguably the best in the world right now.
Add to this a sense of complacency due to their detachment from the world's problems in their South Pacific isolation and one is left with an insipid, spiritually and morally deficient society which has never really had to stand up and be counted or confront any sort of serious threat.
Not the recipe for a vigorous, spiritually healthy society.
I think you're "spot on", as they would say. They do not know the feeling of responsibility that comes with knowing you can help a situation, or do something about as situation. They have no concept that they could help anyone, or be a force of good, and therefore don't try to understand those who do (like the Aussies and Americans). They have morally decayed in the last few years, much to the disgust of many of the older Kiwis. However, keeping your mouth shut if you don't agree is expected down there. Their newspapers are eft-wing rags and their TV is no better than Pravda.
I'm all for that. Go Wallabies and Springboks
> ... living under security provided by their betters.
"Betters"??? What a pompous, supercilious and thoroughly unnecessary thing to say. Are you trying to be deliberately obnoxious, or is that just the way God made you?
> I lived there for 2 years and finally departed because of the nasty, negative attitude of NZer's toward foreigners in general, and Americans and Aussies, in particular.
I've lived here 12 years (citizen now) and would have to disagree with you entirely.
> Even my kids were subject to their nasty, uninformed hate.
I don't know what part of New Zealand you experienced, but all I can say is that I have never experienced "nasty, uninformed hate" or anything even approaching that.
I have found New Zealanders to be very friendly, tolerant and accepting of other folk. I don't know why you experienced what you did, but you must have done something pretty drastic to piss the Kiwis off.
> Well now that is depressing. We know that liberalism, socialism, etc. destroy everything they touch. But I hoped that NZ was immune somehow.
Pay no attention to what these folk have posted about New Zealand. Instead, come on down and visit, make up your own mind, see for yourself. You will be most welcome, and you'll have a marvelous time.
Australia needs to laugh at and totally ignore New Zealand the way we in America laugh at and totally ignore France and the rest of socialist old Europe. Screw those scumbags. It is so good to see Australia elect a man like Howard and make headway in the right direction, away from socialism. Naturally the helpless mice in places like New Zealand are going to be bitter.
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