[magslinger]

Can we get this straight? I'm not defending our gun laws (my handguns were made illegal 10 years ago), but shotguns and rifles are very much legal, albeit tightly controlled.

All firearms should be tightly controlled, anything else could cause personal injury and make it hard to hit your target./s

Any infringement on the right of citizens to keep the means of self defense will tend to be expanded for the protection of the ruling elite. At a cost that citizens of England and Australia and other places are finding out.

[Mac1]

"Any infringement on the right of citizens to keep the means of self defense will tend to be expanded for the protection of the ruling elite."

Right. Give 'em an inch and they take a mile. Guard your rights with care - DON'T get complacent; speaking from experience. Ironically however, the ruling elite might actually keep gun ownership alive in my country - some of those double barrelled rifles cost the same as a new Ferrari!