Wisconsin State G-O-P Official Leaving To Work For Giuliani

WBAY ^ | 1/29/07

[areafiftyone]

MADISON, Wis. The executive director of the Wisconsin Republican Party is leaving his post to work for Rudy Giuliani's presidential exploratory committee.Rick Wiley had worked for the state party the past six years and will leave in coming weeks. The party announced the departure today.Wiley will become national deputy political director for Giuliani's presidential exploratory committee.State party chairman Brad Courtney praised Wiley, saying the Republican fundraising is solid and the outlook for 2008 is good.Wiley's departure comes after state Republicans were pummeled at the polls in November, losing control of the state Senate, dropping eight seats but maintaining majority control in the Assembly and failing to defeat Governor Jim Doyle in his re-election bid.A replacement for Wiley was not immediately named.

[areafiftyone]

((((PING)))))

[Republic_of_Secession.]

Well if Giuliani should happen to win the Republican nomination the conservative agenda will be on hold even more so than it has in the past.

[Bosco]

Wish he would take some of the RINO Ohio GOP upper crust...

[flashbunny]

He should have left sooner- he helped the WI GOP lose control of the legislature, and put up a candidate that lost to the most corrupt governor in the history of the state.

Hopefully he'll have the same luck with rudy in the primaries.

[Old_Mil]

We know what a bastion of conservatism Madison, Wisconsin is.

[areafiftyone]

Its the candidates themselves that lost it. But just keep blaming everyone else because that's the thing to do when you can't deal with it. The Republican candidates could not get the independent and Moderate votes they needed to win. Simple as that.

[Spiff]

I wonder if this "Republican" party chair knows where Rudy stands on issues important enough to be included in the Republican Party Platform:

Giuliani/Clinton/GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Gay Marriage	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Gay Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports	Supports	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports	Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports	Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Supports

Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."

[flashbunny]

They lost in wisconsin the same reason they lost at a national level: They lost touch with their conservative base. They became indistinguishable from the democrats on most issues, and they not only lost the base, they lost the moderates because of that.

Can't you see that? History shows this time and time again. When republicans run as conservatives,they win elections. When they run as liberals or moderates, they lose (in most states).

Why did they vote for democrats? Not because republicans were too conservative. They were generally acting like liberals when in office. And the choice came down to the status quo or the apparent opposition - the democrats. THIS IS WHAT ALMOST ALWAYS HAPPENS!

Your love of rudy doesn't change the truth. A conservative message that connects with traditional american values wins elections. Rudy doesn't have that. He has a small, rabid cult like following and name recognition. If he gets past the primary, he will be absolutely eviscerated for his positions and his record.

I'm beginning to think people like you are either part of the rudy the rino campaign or you work for the democrats. No conservative republican with actual belief in the constitution could hold their nose enough to vote for a semi-closeted liberal like rudy.

Amazing that you think the key to success for the republican party in 2008 is to be more liberal. 2006 should have taught you that you can't outliberal a liberal - but you sure as heck want to try it again in 2008.

[afraidfortherepublic]

Well, kiss Guiliani goodbye with Wiley as his chair. Wiley didn't help our state, and he's unlikely to help Guiliani either. It was some of the deals that Wiley pulled that made certain that we lost the governorship and the Green Bay seat too.

[deport]

Are any of the other wannabes setting up national/statewide organizations?..... I'd guess McCain has something in the works. I know others have mentioned forming exploratory committees, etc. Newt mentioned today he's waiting until the Labor Day time frame to make a decision which essential means he's out but will keep the door open which may help him sell a few more books or garner a speaking engagement or two.

[My GOP]

This is why you should vote for Rudy. Lets first address the social issues. Let's start with pro-homo. He's AGAINST gay marriage. Now as far as homos go, personally, I disagree with their life style but as long as they do what they do in the privacy of their own home I really don't care and nobody else should either, especially not the federal government. The POTUS doesn't have the power to stop people from being gay. And he surely shouldn't be interferring in people's private lives. So therefore voting on the basis of this issue doesn't make much sense.

As far as abortion goes, we have a pro-life President now but we are still having abortions. No president has the power to stop abortion. Rudy has already said he supports strict constructionist judges like John Roberts. He constantly praised the President for appointing Roberts and Alito. He said Roberts is his ideal justice. Assuming Rudy gets elected President and appoints Roberts-like justices then maybe Roe v. Wade will get overturned. But even if it does get overturned I hope you're not naive enough to think that would stop all abortions. The abortion issue would then revert back to the states and do you really think California would outlaw abortions? Being pragmatic in our thinking we all know we can't completely stop abortions. Therefore voting solely on this issue very unpragmatic. I hate abortions too but I realize that regardless of how many pro-life presidents we elect, its just not going to stop.

Rudy is great on all the other issues, the ones where the President actually has the power to make a real difference, like the WOT. He's fiscally responible(he turned a NYC's deficit into a surplus), a tax cutter(he cut over 20 taxes as Mayor), conservative on domestic policies(he dropped 600,000 people off welfare, cleaned up the rampant crime as Mayor and supports school choice), supports strict constructionist judges, and is 100% perfect when it comes to his stance on the WOT and all other foreign policy which by the way is 100 times more important than worrying about what some gays people are doing, gay people that doesn't affect your life at all!!!

With Rudy you are not getting a liberal, you are getting a man who is conservative on most issues, the issues where the president actually has major influence over and yes he is fairly liberal on a couple of social issues, issues that the president has very little influence over. Nowadays judges have the most influence on these issues and Rudy supports strict constructionist so that pretty well takes care of the social issues and will help us get these issues back to the states where they belong. So on the AVERAGE he is fairly conservative and not a liberal and more importantly conservative on the issues where the President can make a difference. And most importantly he will continue Bush's work on the WOT and give us a great foreign policy.

Finally, Rudy and McCain are, IMO, the only two Republicans that can win in 2008. So take your pick, Hillary, McCain, or Rudy. Sure, you can "choose" another Republican but he will lose to Hillary. Back to Rudy, If he's elected President and fights terrorist like he fought crime as Mayor can you imagine the results we will in the defining struggle of our generation, the fight against Islamic fascism. You know for a fact Hillary will surrender the terrorist and hand our foreign policy over to the UN and EU and poor Israel would be left out to dry. Rudy is extremely competetent and a great leader and there is nobody I want more as Commander in Chief. So you go ahead and worry about gays, people that don't affect your life at all. I'm going to worry about Islamic fascism, you know the people that want to kill us all, and vote for someone that will go after them.

Lets review history. World War II ended in 1945. SEVEN years later in 1952 the most popular general of the war, Dwight Eisenhower, won in a landslide despite far right extremist unpragmatic Republicans not supporting him in the primaries. History always repeats itself

[flashbunny]

What a steaming pantload.

Spiff, are you doing a Rudy watch pinglist?

[My GOP]

Nope, its the truth!!!

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"They lost in Wisconsin for the same reason they lost at a national level; they lost touch with their conservative base. They became indistinguishable from the democrats on most issues, and they not only lost the base, they lost the moderates because of that.

Can't you see that? History shows this time and time again. When republicans run as conservatives, they win elections. When they run as liberals or moderates, they lose (in most states)."

Amen to that!

[My GOP]

Actually we mainly lost in 2006 because of the Republican President who has a 30% approval ratings and the war in Iraq, which about 30% are happy with at this point. And I'm not trying to say anything bad about the President and the war but its the truth.

[flashbunny]

It is as muddled as all other support for rudy the rino.

He's conservative, but he can win because he's not that conservative.

Doublespeak.

And btw, when was the last time a Mayor was elected president?

And by that I mean "the highest level of elected office he ever held was mayor", not that he was a mayor and then senator or Governor.

[My GOP]

"He's conservative, but he can win because he's not that conservative."

He's conservative on domestic, fiscal, and foreign policies and a states righter on social issues. Besides, the President has very little influence and should not have alot of influence on social issues anyways. Besides, I feel he's our best chance of beating Hillary.

"And btw, when was the last time a Mayor was elected president?"

First time for everything. Besides, NYC is larger population and has a bigger budget than 40 states.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

I worked for the Mark Green campaign. The WI GOP is a bunch of lack-luster dopes these days. Good-hearted people at the local level, but the Higher Ups have truly lost their way.

So, what you say has some merit, but I don't see ANYONE from Dog Catcher on up being "groomed" in the WI GOP the way the progressives and the socialists go about it in this state. :(

Did you catch my posting of the other day on how the opposition does it? I'll find the link for you.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Here's the article. Looks like the Mods pulled it for whatever reason.

http://www.madison.com/tct/news/stories/index.php?ntid=116560&ntpid=2