Posted on 01/29/2007 7:06:50 AM PST by SJackson
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We came over it several hundreds of years ago. When will the Muslims realize that it´s not 1400 AD?? When will they finally start to introduce their very own secularization?
At one time, yes. Flagellantism was a 13th and 14th century radical Christian movement
In the Western religious tradition, the desire to be beaten and whipped reflected the desire for "penance" which often involved humiliation, shame, pain, worship and submission. In monasteries and churches, bowed heads, bent knees, folded hands, covered heads and full-body prostration reflected the basic masochistic posture. The writers of the New Testament made frequent mention of flagellation and physical pain. The entire "passion play" of Christ, a narrative that has been embedded in our collective psyches for thousands of years, involves bondage, flagellation and crucifixion as part of being subjected to the will of a higher power and the subsequent resurrection to a transcendent consciousness. The Psalmists were in the practice of lashing themselves every day. It was part of the Jewish tradition, 500 years after Christ; to lash one another with scourges after they had finished their prayers and confessed their sins.
Flagellation in monasteries and convents were the order of the day. Saints such as St. William, St. Rudolph and St. Dominic would routinely order their disciples to lash them on bare backs. From flagellating themselves, priests began to flagellate their penitents as part of their penance. It came to be regarded as a necessary act of submission to God. Some holy men maintained that whipping had the power to rescue souls from hell. They believed that humiliation and physical pain provided a way in which one could become fully human.
All of the early Christian orders used flagellation as part of their spiritual discipline. St. Theresa, founder of the Carmelites, used severe flagellation as part of her daily practice. Through the birch and the scourge, she entered into states of ecstatic mysticism. The Carmelite nun, Caterina of Cardona, continuously wore iron chains which cut into her flash. She flogged herself with chains and hooks as often as possible and would sometimes flagellate herself for two or three hours at a time. It was said that through these practices, she was subject to mystical ecstasies and visions of heavenly grace. Similar stories abound among the Franciscans, the Dominicans and the Jesuits. Apparently a heavy dose of masochism was an essential part of Christian monastic life.
1400 AD would be quite modern, by Islamic standards. You certainly meant the 7th century, didn't you?
this has Satan's fingerprints all over it....
Your picture is insulting to cave men.
Yes, some fringe groups, but the practice will get you kicked out of every church that I know of.
I'm with you on that.
If these filthy stinking pigs want to cut themselves up -- just fine by me, I hope it goes septic. But to do *that* to a wee innocent kid...!
It makes my blood boil. No wonder these Muslim terrorists grow up to be psychopathic killers: what kind of childhood do they get to have? A jolly childhood where Daddy cuts them up once a year to celebrate their Religion of Peace.
These mungrels make me sick.
First off I'm not totally in love with your tone right now!
Does self abuse count? :-)
I have a solid method for covering themselves with their own blood.
That is too funny! LOL!!!
You are saying some Christian sects don't practice flagellation? They practice crucifixion in the Philippines.
Too bad they don't all bleed to death. LOL
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