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Giuliani Is Sounding More Like a Candidate
New York Times ^ | 1/28/07 | RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA

Posted on 01/28/2007 10:18:35 AM PST by Blackirish

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Nominating Rudy Giuliani to lead the Republican Party is like choosing Al Bundy to pastor your church.


41 posted on 01/28/2007 11:52:09 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: ffusco

Sorry, but the inalienable right to life is a God-given one. No state has the right to legalize murder. Go read the Preamble to the Constitution (a preamble is the basis for everything that follows) and you will learn, if you have basic reading comprehension skills, that every right that is guaranteed to you and I is equally shared by OUR POSTERITY.

And the federal government has a perfect right to define marriage. Utah and Arizona were not allowed to enter the Union, by law, until and unless they forsook polygamy in their foundational documents.

You're ignorant, and it is the exact type of ignorance that is destroying our free republic.


42 posted on 01/28/2007 11:57:02 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: ffusco
He is fiscally conservative, pro-business and strong on national defence.

So was Mussolini, but he was still a statist socialist.

43 posted on 01/28/2007 11:58:05 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Sorry, comparing the Liberal Party's endorsement of Rudy for NYC Mayor to him being a liberal for President (despite his fiscal & public safety conservatism as Mayor) is a bit of a stretch.


44 posted on 01/28/2007 11:58:36 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: Blackirish
Why is the GOP even considering somebody without any executive experience?
Even worse is his stance on Abortion and other conservative fundamental issues. .
No money from my wallet for RHINO' this election.
45 posted on 01/28/2007 11:58:44 AM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: EternalVigilance
Sorry, but the inalienable right to life is a God-given one.

So contact your Congresscritter and have them introduce a Constitutional Amendment banning abortion then. Rudy's past pro-abortion statements mean nothing. He didn't enact any pro-abortion policies as Mayor, and in fact, abortions declined under his watch. Presidents have very little control over abortion except appoint judges, and Rudy already said he'll nominate strict constructionists who'll likely overturn that atrocious ruling and return it back to the states.

46 posted on 01/28/2007 12:01:40 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
...his fiscal & public safety conservatism...

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin

47 posted on 01/28/2007 12:03:28 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Rudy's past pro-abortion statements mean nothing.

Obviously, to you.

48 posted on 01/28/2007 12:04:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Post-Neolithic
"...10-15 percent of the Conservative vote is Christian(they will never support a Pro-Abort/Pro-Gay candidate)..."

I heard Richard Miniter being interviewed on the radio Friday A.M. He writes for National Review Online and is author of "The Shadow War", "Disinformation" and "Losing Bin Laden - How Bill Clinton's failure's unleashed global terror"
He is well conected in political circles.

He stated that Rudy is getting the Social Conservative Republicans in Michigan to write checks to his campaign. They hear what he has to say and they are liking it. If he's able to get Michigandrs to no only support him, but write checks, he should be able to get the same results countrywid

49 posted on 01/28/2007 12:04:34 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Presidents have very little control over abortion except appoint judges,

That's like saying, "Mothers have little to do with bringing children into the world, except carrying them for nine months and birthing them."

50 posted on 01/28/2007 12:06:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Well, maybe we're getting down to the source of your support for Giuliani: Gross ignorance.

The main reason why the GOP got its ass-kicked in the mid-terms is because they tried to be all paternalistic and moral.

Look, people just want their taxes cut and gov't limited, OK? I don't need politicians preaching and telling me how morally superior they are and I'm just some mere rube who's going to burn in Hell.

When you cut the taxes and limit government, the social issues will take care of themselves. Stop with the flag-burning crap, trying to outlaw abortion completely (it'll never happen) or worrying about two guys getting it on somewhere.

51 posted on 01/28/2007 12:06:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: MaxMax
Why is the GOP even considering somebody without any executive experience?



Thats idiotic. Practically single handedly cleaned up NYCity. Then was pretty much the leader of the country in the week after 9/11.

The best that can happen with abortion is that roe v wade will be overturned and it will still be legal in all the major metropolitan areas. If that is your number one issue....you must of had your TV off on 9/11.
52 posted on 01/28/2007 12:07:36 PM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: EternalVigilance
That's like saying, "Mothers have little to do with bringing children into the world, except carrying them for nine months and birthing them."

There you go again, completely missing the point.

Instead of lobbying your Congressman to pass a constitutional amendment banning abortion, or supporting someone like Giuliani who'll nominate justices who'll overturn the ruling, you want a President who'll magically wave a wand and eliminate all abortions. Another reason why the pro-life movement continues to be stuck on neutral, because it doesn't know how to fight the long-term battles.

53 posted on 01/28/2007 12:09:07 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: EternalVigilance
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin

Benjamin Franklin would have agreed with Rudy when he took over NYC from the disastrous David Dinkins.

54 posted on 01/28/2007 12:11:21 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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To: Blackirish

Giuliani was awarded the Reagan Medal of Freedom.

Reagan admired Giuliani and appointed to his to the #3 position at the Justice Department.

Of all the books sold at Reagan's online library, Giuliani's book Leadership is one of the few not about Reagan himself or presidential airplanes or ships.


55 posted on 01/28/2007 12:14:13 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The main reason why the GOP got its ass-kicked in the mid-terms is because they tried to be all paternalistic and moral.

You're deluded.

56 posted on 01/28/2007 12:15:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Peach; Spiff
Giuliani was awarded the Reagan Medal of Freedom.

Reagan admired Giuliani and appointed to his to the #3 position at the Justice Department.

Of all the books sold at Reagan's online library, Giuliani's book Leadership is one of the few not about Reagan himself or presidential airplanes or ships.

Links, please.

57 posted on 01/28/2007 12:16:52 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Very weak.


58 posted on 01/28/2007 12:17:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Instead of lobbying your Congressman to pass a constitutional amendment banning abortion, or supporting someone like Giuliani who'll nominate justices who'll overturn the ruling, you want a President who'll magically wave a wand and eliminate all abortions. Another reason why the pro-life movement continues to be stuck on neutral, because it doesn't know how to fight the long-term battles.

Giuliani is going to work to overturn something that he has supported his entire political career? Who do you think you're kidding? The man even supports Partial Birth abortions, aka infanticide.

I take back the "deluded comment". You're a deceiver.

59 posted on 01/28/2007 12:19:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Blackirish
So am I to assume that you prefer conservatives throw the very issues
"we've been fighting for", out the window because of a popularity circle jerk fest over Giuliani?
Be my guest, but you won't win my vote over by assuming you know
whats best for our party and our country.

Giuliani = political suicide for the Republicans..

60 posted on 01/28/2007 12:20:38 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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