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The Road to Serfdom
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 1944 | F. A. Hayek

Posted on 01/28/2007 9:29:00 AM PST by Jacquerie

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To: Erasmus
Along with Ludwig von Mises, he was an early exponent of the Austrian school of economic thought.

Yes, but unlike von Mises, he reasoned without dismissing the moral question. Hayek's knowledge that human nature was not a machine tempered the scientific rationalism that is so often the refuge of those who are devoted to "what works."

21 posted on 01/28/2007 10:31:22 AM PST by cornelis
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To: Jacquerie

The road to serfdom is paved by "free trade".


22 posted on 01/28/2007 10:32:13 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Jacquerie
Great book. BTW Hayek was not english but Austrian born. Either way what he wrote is prescient today.

My conclusion on observing the left in the west really comes down not to ideology but to class. The left under their guise to 'help the disenfranchised" will invevitably pave the way to totalitarianism. all movements of liberation have offered the masses the same: liberation from tyranny, a new social order where the new man will be freed from the tyranny of servitute, history, class, race, etc.

But the 'struggle' is never ending. the war of liberation is perpetual. the left is always preparing for war and as a result those who do not support the movement are branded as enemies of the revolution and so on. Then the cycle of tyranny continues.

What the left despises is a free citizenry that left to it's own devices, will not follow the perscribed marxist plan. Thus they find refuge in institutions such as the judiciary, media and the academia just to name a few, that is at arms length of the democratic process. Offering them leverage to push through an agenda that may not be accepted in an open ballot. Abortion, gay marriage, stem-cell research and so on.

I suggest you pick up Robert Bork Slouching's Towards Gomorrah, The Theory of Moral Sentiment by Adam Smith. Anything by Locke & Voltaire just to name a few. Hayek is part of the same tangent of voices as others that warn us again and again that tyranny lurkes around the corners of history.

23 posted on 01/28/2007 10:32:58 AM PST by bubman
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To: bubman

Voltaire and Hayek? Did you forget Comte?


24 posted on 01/28/2007 10:35:08 AM PST by cornelis
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bttt


25 posted on 01/28/2007 10:40:17 AM PST by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: rabscuttle385

I've heard Walter E. Williams(the Professor of Liberty!) speak of it on Rush'es show!


26 posted on 01/28/2007 10:51:48 AM PST by Cheapskate ( Celebrate Sept.8 as Pajamatag , the day the pajamahadeem busted Dan Rather!!)
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To: hedgetrimmer

hedgetrimmer wrote, "The road to serfdom is paved by "free trade".


Please elaborate...I'm not following you.


27 posted on 01/28/2007 11:25:09 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Cheapskate

Maybe I should listen to Rush more often ;)


28 posted on 01/28/2007 11:46:46 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: Chuck Dent; theBuckwheat; bubman

Austrian.

Oops, my mistake. He was Austrian, not English.


29 posted on 01/28/2007 11:47:39 AM PST by Jacquerie (To Socialists of All Parties.)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Bishop_Malachi
In the following chapter, Hayek writes:

"What in effect unites the socialists of the Left and the Right is common hostility to competition and their common desire to replace it by a directed economy."

30 posted on 01/28/2007 11:56:06 AM PST by Jacquerie (To Socialists of All Parties.)
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To: bubman

You write very well and I agree with all of your points. Thanks for the reading recommendations!

BTW, being Canadian, how do you suggest we derail the national health care train that is coming around the bend?


31 posted on 01/28/2007 12:50:41 PM PST by Jacquerie (To Socialists of All Parties.)
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To: facedown

Very good book. It should be required reading. Thomas Sowell has written some similar concepts in his work.


32 posted on 01/28/2007 1:01:34 PM PST by Wildbill22
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To: Jacquerie; Bishop_Malachi
What in effect unites the socialists of the Left and the Right is common hostility to competition and their common desire to replace it by a directed economy."

This is describes to a 'T' the falsely named "free trade" system established by the global socialists in conjunction with transnational corporations. The whole purpose of the WTO and the plethora of 'working groups' and 'ministerials' it has created is to CONTROL trade and a global level and remove ANY local control over trade, and private ownership by individuals. This is evidenced by the language and effect of the numerous "free trade agreements" or FTAs that are burning like brushfires around the world. These FTAs usurp control, diminish sovereignty and harm individual rights.

In short, they are as antithetical to a free society as anything can be. For us, especially here in America,there is nothing "free" about them, from the fact that they are forced Americans without our consent to the fact that the American taxpayer is funding it. Without the American taxpayer , this "free trade" system could not have proliferated as it has. Sadly many Americans are not even aware of the massive subsidies globalization has required, financially and culturally.
33 posted on 01/28/2007 2:01:07 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Jacquerie

It is a great book.


34 posted on 01/28/2007 2:02:31 PM PST by sauropod ( "The View:" A Tupperware party in the 10th circle of Hell.)
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To: Jacquerie

Bump for an excellent book.


35 posted on 01/28/2007 2:05:04 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Jacquerie
Sounds very much like Herbert Spencer's essays from a hundred years earlier and collected by Truxtun Beale in "The Man Versus The State".
36 posted on 01/28/2007 6:07:44 PM PST by fella (Respect does not equal fear unless your a tyrant.)
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To: spunkets

bttt


37 posted on 01/28/2007 7:25:20 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (Find out what brand the Ethiopians are drinking and send a case to all my generals.)
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To: Jacquerie; All

bump to encourage all to read this book

(we need a "booklist" bump list)


38 posted on 01/28/2007 7:38:36 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: festus

Re: The Road to Serfdom.
When did the terms liberal and conservative get switched around?

I've got this, i just have to read it now.


39 posted on 01/29/2007 7:45:31 AM PST by Shimmer128 (Non Illegitimi Carborundum)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Unintentionally ironic.


40 posted on 01/29/2007 7:59:34 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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