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Giuliani touts experience, but personal life may be an issue
Newsday ^ | 28 January 2008 | Craig Gordon

Posted on 01/28/2007 8:24:22 AM PST by Spiff

Giuliani touts experience, but personal life may be an issue

BY CRAIG GORDON
Newsday Washington Bureau

January 28, 2007

MANCHESTER, N.H. - Rudolph Giuliani argued yesterday that his record of cutting taxes, improving security and guiding New York through 9/11 are proof that he could do the same as president - offering his strongest signal yet that he's serious about a White House bid.

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Giuliani is trying to bat down questions from top Republicans about whether his White House ambitions are a popularity-fueled dalliance or something more serious. His speech laid out a point-by-point rationale for his possible candidacy, seeking to portray himself as a tested leader for dangerous times in the mold of Ronald Reagan.

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He also appeared intent on quieting questions about his marital history by giving wife Judith Nathan an unusually high-profile role here. She barely left his side in public, and he called her a "partner" whom he leaned on for everything from getting through 9/11 and prostate cancer to understanding the science behind possible anthrax attacks.

Giuliani didn't mention that when Nathan helped him after his cancer diagnosis in spring 2000, he was, in fact, still married to Donna Hanover, and that the revelation of his illness came amid the messy public breakup of his second marriage.

In the end, Giuliani's two-day visit here encapsulated the promise and challenge of his possible candidacy.

On one hand, his name recognition and tough-guy image in New York, before and after 9/11, helped him draw large and enthusiastic crowds on this visit. But even some who were eager to see him were blunt in saying his personal history and liberal social stances could prove a serious, perhaps insurmountable obstacle to winning their votes.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; electionpresident; gorudy; hero; independent; leader; liberal; moderate; nyc; prolife; sureloser; thirdparty; winner
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To: JimFreedom; DocH; Dark Skies

He may be an 'arse', you are shilling for a RINO. That's worse, in my book.

BTW, what military service did Rudy have?


161 posted on 01/28/2007 11:53:50 AM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: sitetest; Spiff

There is such a thing called research. Why don't you try it.

http://www.tjwalker.com/sfchroniclemarch02.htm


162 posted on 01/28/2007 11:54:11 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: DocH

So, I take it you are NOT a Christian?


163 posted on 01/28/2007 11:55:45 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: Spiff; All
FReepers, we must be prepared for the strong possibility and imperative of getting behind a nominated John McCain, for President.
164 posted on 01/28/2007 11:55:50 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: narses
Let's try again. You admit that you are not doing well in preventing abortion?

You have a GOP President and had a GOP Congress? And you did NOT stop abortion.

How is electing a dem Congress going to help? How is electing a dem President going to help?

165 posted on 01/28/2007 11:58:15 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

"Let's try again. You admit that you are not doing well in preventing abortion?"

Nope. Brush up on your reading skills. Abortion isn't the ONLY liberal problem with your crossdressing loser candidate btw. You knew that, right?


166 posted on 01/28/2007 12:00:09 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: Spiff

I hate to burst your little lie. But Rudy did most certainly receive the Reagan Medal of Freedom.

When former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani receives the Reagan Medal of Freedom tonight in Los Angeles for his heroic actions after the Sept. 11 attacks, he'll be introduced by an old friend -- GOP nominee for governor Bill Simon Jr.

http://www.tjwalker.com/sfchroniclemarch02.htm

Also, with the exception of McCaslin (you're right) the only books sold at the Reagan online library are books about Reagan, ships/planes and Rudy Giuliani's book Leadership.

So with the exception of McCaslin, I was correct.

https://www.reaganfoundation.org/store/products.asp?subcat_id=39

But by all means, keep lying to try and make your stupid little points.


167 posted on 01/28/2007 12:00:29 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Spiff
Sorry I am not voting for him. He has way too much liberal stink on him to be considered.

A pile of turds is a pile of turds no matter how the Rinos running the Republiucan party try to put a flower on the pile.

168 posted on 01/28/2007 12:00:53 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: narses
Oh you are most welcome. I want this thread to get a lot of bumps. You spammers are sooo deep and insightful :-)

Hate is such a great family value - don't you think? :-)

169 posted on 01/28/2007 12:01:21 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: JimFreedom

LOL - well we give the advice for free. What more do they want? :-)


170 posted on 01/28/2007 12:02:22 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: NapkinUser; Spiff

You might want to check back. Little Spiff boy was oh, so wrong. He seems to delight in that.


171 posted on 01/28/2007 12:02:27 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: narses

So, you are losing the battle against abortion? Do you think that spamming Rudy threads on a web site is going to change that?


172 posted on 01/28/2007 12:03:37 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
I think so, too. These are the unappeasables.

Your one note song became tedious after the first time your warbled it.

You haven't the slightest idea how many of us FReepers who are opposed to Giuliani will vote in 2008. None.

What we will not do is roll over and give him a free pass and kiss his feet like you are doing just because he sounds conservative on one, maybe two issues (talk about your one-note candidates) while singing an eighty voice liberal choir on the rest.

My preference, Romney, is also opposed by many FReepers--and for for poorly articulated and largely unsubstantiated reasons in this social conservative's opinion. But I try not to lay the blame at the feet of those opposed to him. I know he has work to do. It is Romney's responsibility to explain his positions and persuade us why we should believe he will govern conservatively. He's working to do that. If he fails, it's his failure. No one has a "duty" to support him.

Giuliani isn't undertaking any effort all. He's not going to stake out socially conservative positions. Why should he? As long as people like you give him cover and blame everyone else for not worshiping him, he has no incentive to change.

What I and other FReepers do in the voting booth in 2008 concerning Giuliani isn't a problem for Giuliani. What is a problem for him is what the millions of social conservatives will do who have no idea Free Republic even exists. What they are likely to do is stay home on election day because they have no real choice if the choice is between two radical social liberals.

173 posted on 01/28/2007 12:04:11 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: narses

Do you think anyone but you and I and those who have made up their minds are reading this thread? :-)


174 posted on 01/28/2007 12:05:15 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Peach; sitetest; Spiff

Indeed. So why did you misrepresent the award?


175 posted on 01/28/2007 12:05:33 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: Spiff
He's got a lot more problems than his "personal" life.

Being pro choice, pro gay, anti gun, to list a few, and I personally won't overlook any of those things! I know adultery is a "personal" problem but it's one that I won't overlook, because it's a reflection on his character. They are all deal breakers to me.

176 posted on 01/28/2007 12:07:10 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: Spiff

I dont want a wanna-be President that was good about cleaning-up after a terrorist attack here at home.......I want one that prevents the next one from occuring!


177 posted on 01/28/2007 12:07:18 PM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: narses

Well I'm sure we all value your insults so much - that we'll change immediately. NOT. Your kindness and Christian love is sooo overwhelming. It really makes me think about whether you adhere to your principles or not.


178 posted on 01/28/2007 12:07:37 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: narses; Spiff

Who are you talking to? Spiff boy doesn't seem to know that Giuliani was indeed awarded the Reagan Medal of Freedom.


179 posted on 01/28/2007 12:09:07 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: narses
Oh, but I thought that abortion was an important issue to you. Is it not?

And yet, you're not doing very well on that issue?

180 posted on 01/28/2007 12:09:23 PM PST by Sunsong
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