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Study of Immigrants Links Lighter Skin and Higher Income
ASSOCIATED PRESS via NY Times ^ | January 28, 2007 | Anon. Race Stringer

Posted on 01/28/2007 4:43:35 AM PST by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy
I'm afraid they only controlled for variables that would not interfere with their agenda.

LOL, as per usual. :)

41 posted on 01/28/2007 8:41:17 AM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Pharmboy
Light-skinned immigrants in the United States make more money on average than those with darker complexions, and the chief reason appears to be discrimination, a researcher says.

No, no racism here. Sounds like the "researcher" injected the "research" with his own racist beliefs.

42 posted on 01/28/2007 8:48:27 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Hardastarboard; mewzilla

So the research will be used as a science prop in skin-tone lawsuits. Gee, I wonder where the funding for the professor's grant came from?


43 posted on 01/28/2007 8:52:55 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: Pharmboy; Cacique
How do we define "light skin" anyway? The Irish are rather pink, the Koreans are typically pale white to french vanilla in coloring, etc.

Being that I've seen several other surveys showing Indians, Persians, Koreans, even Arabs as having higher median incomes than "white" Americans, I call this survey BS.

The only area where I can see this study making sense is among Latino immigrants to this country. Being that those at the top of the socioeconomic pyramid in Latin America tend to be of European ancestry, those from this background tend to come to this country with money, education, and existing business connections (see South Florida).

44 posted on 01/28/2007 8:54:31 AM PST by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! The politics of Rockefeller and the attitude of a Gambino.)
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To: Dutch Boy

Don't forget teamwork. You can be bright and work OK, but if you lack teamwork that will limit you also.


45 posted on 01/28/2007 9:04:21 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Popocatapetl

You left out that many hate whites, choose drugs, choose violence, choose to have sex with a lot of people and choose to have babies without regard for marriage or a serious commitment, choose to rape, choose to rob and choose to kill. Choose the welfare route that democrats have given them in response for their vote, choose to follow people like Jesse Jackson and persecute the cops anytime they get hard on crime, they support the ACLU, they demand reparations rather than work, won't take jobs that are ladder jobs, etc., etc.


46 posted on 01/28/2007 9:10:44 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

Sure, you can quote such examples, but they are more in line with individual failings, rather than group failings. Call them, "negative and destructive" choices, instead of what I would call "inferior" choices.

Most people who don't do well aren't particularly bad, they just make inferior choices during their lives. Things such as "Do I study or do I party?", are really decisive for a lot of them. Many lack the will to make hard choices to do difficult things that will improve themselves. Eventually they fall into dull routines that guide them away from success.

If their culture raises them to be losers, or to have low and unimportant roles in society, odds are that they will grow into such roles. Some will escape, of course.


47 posted on 01/28/2007 10:56:13 AM PST by Popocatapetl
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To: Pharmboy

And In Nigeria? Do lighter skinned people do better or worse?


48 posted on 01/28/2007 11:36:45 AM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Popocatapetl

I can not disagree with your logic.

However, some groups are real losers. Yes there are the 10% to 20% that are really achieving. I do not know what the cause, genetic, cultural, hate filled, or whatever.

I have made my choices and have held the same job and worked real hard at it to support myself and me family.

I do not have to pay to keep someone alive because that person did not feel like working, studying or other things that are related to keeping alive.


49 posted on 01/28/2007 1:26:37 PM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: ffusco

Carribean blacks outperform blacks from America with similar educational backgrounds. They also outperform whites with similar backgrounds.

Do you think it is because they do not spend all their spare time hating whitey and or is it because they have a real strong work ethic and value learning?


50 posted on 01/28/2007 1:29:18 PM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Mamzelle

" fair-skinned gigolo types like Vicente run the show?"

That's because what you think of when you think of Mexicans are really Mexican Indians or their descendants. The ruling class is Spaniard, a European light-skinned people.


51 posted on 01/28/2007 1:55:23 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pharmboy
Do the same thing with fat people and skinny people - or with bald men and men with a full head of hair.

LMFAO

52 posted on 01/28/2007 1:59:44 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

As with everything, absolutes are difficult. From societies point of view, all varieties of welfare are essentially gambling.

The bet is threefold: that there are lots of people who just had a bit of bad luck, and with a little sustenance, they will get back on their feet in short order. This is a good bet, as this does happen to a lot of people; and with a little help they are never on welfare again.

The second, which is "welfare reform", is that welfare has to be designed to encourage this in those who were never successful, who were raised in conditions of failure which they can only elevate themselves from over time, incrementally, and with incentives to get off welfare. This does seem to get a lot of people off welfare, one way or another, so is also not a bad bet.

The third is the recognition that there are a lot of people who are permanently wards of the state, mostly because of disability. Many can do a little, low value work, but not enough to survive, and a lot are just physical or psychological wash-outs. Society respects that if you are a cripple without a family, it can spend a little so that you don't just die on the street.

There are a lot of people out there who would rather live in a cave than work for their own support. But most of them end up in prison, as society has no real other place for them. Prison, too, is a form of welfare.

But the days of "welfare mothers" who just make babies and expect everyone else to support them, are by and large over.

The vast majority of individual welfare from the federal government can be broken down into these main groupings:

Native Americans, homeowners, students, farmers, artists, scientists, consumers, small businesses, refugees, aliens, veterans, senior citizens, low-income persons, health and education professionals, builders, contractors, developers, handicapped persons, and the physically afflicted. Examples of direct assistance to these individuals include Section 8 vouchers, Pell Grant scholarships, and disaster relief awards, among many others.


53 posted on 01/28/2007 3:27:47 PM PST by Popocatapetl
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To: Pharmboy
Thanks PB, good non-ping-list idea.
one shade lighter
I wonder if there is a little booklet of color swatches we should be consulting. ;')
54 posted on 01/28/2007 4:43:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

I believe intelligence and how it is measured is cultural.


55 posted on 01/28/2007 5:01:34 PM PST by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: ffusco

What about achievement?


56 posted on 01/29/2007 3:59:18 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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