Posted on 01/28/2007 4:43:35 AM PST by Pharmboy
NASHVILLE, Jan. 27 (AP) Light-skinned immigrants in the United States make more money on average than those with darker complexions, and the chief reason appears to be discrimination, a researcher says.
The scholar, Joni Hersch, a professor of law and economics at Vanderbilt University, looked at a government survey of 2,084 legal immigrants to the United States from around the world and found that those with the lightest skin earned an average of 8 percent to 15 percent more than similar immigrants with much darker skin.
On average, Dr. Hersch said, being one shade lighter has about the same effect as having an additional year of education.
The study also found that taller immigrants earned more than shorter ones, with an extra inch of height associated with a 1 percent increase in income.
Other researchers said the findings were consistent...and pointed to a skin-tone prejudice that went beyond race.
Dr. Hersch took into consideration other factors that could affect wages, like English-language proficiency, education, occupation, race or country of origin, and found that skin tone still seemed to make a difference in earnings. That meant that if two similar immigrants from Bangladesh, for example, came to the United States at the same time, with the same occupation and ability to speak English, the lighter-skinned one would make more money on average.
I thought that once we controlled for race and nationality, I expected the difference to go away, Dr. Hersch said, but even with people from the same country, the same race, skin color really matters.
Although many cultures show a bias toward lighter skin, she said her analysis showed that the skin-color advantage was not based on preferential treatment for light-skinned people in their country of origin. The bias, she said, occurs in the United States.
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LOL, as per usual. :)
No, no racism here. Sounds like the "researcher" injected the "research" with his own racist beliefs.
So the research will be used as a science prop in skin-tone lawsuits. Gee, I wonder where the funding for the professor's grant came from?
Being that I've seen several other surveys showing Indians, Persians, Koreans, even Arabs as having higher median incomes than "white" Americans, I call this survey BS.
The only area where I can see this study making sense is among Latino immigrants to this country. Being that those at the top of the socioeconomic pyramid in Latin America tend to be of European ancestry, those from this background tend to come to this country with money, education, and existing business connections (see South Florida).
Don't forget teamwork. You can be bright and work OK, but if you lack teamwork that will limit you also.
You left out that many hate whites, choose drugs, choose violence, choose to have sex with a lot of people and choose to have babies without regard for marriage or a serious commitment, choose to rape, choose to rob and choose to kill. Choose the welfare route that democrats have given them in response for their vote, choose to follow people like Jesse Jackson and persecute the cops anytime they get hard on crime, they support the ACLU, they demand reparations rather than work, won't take jobs that are ladder jobs, etc., etc.
Sure, you can quote such examples, but they are more in line with individual failings, rather than group failings. Call them, "negative and destructive" choices, instead of what I would call "inferior" choices.
Most people who don't do well aren't particularly bad, they just make inferior choices during their lives. Things such as "Do I study or do I party?", are really decisive for a lot of them. Many lack the will to make hard choices to do difficult things that will improve themselves. Eventually they fall into dull routines that guide them away from success.
If their culture raises them to be losers, or to have low and unimportant roles in society, odds are that they will grow into such roles. Some will escape, of course.
And In Nigeria? Do lighter skinned people do better or worse?
I can not disagree with your logic.
However, some groups are real losers. Yes there are the 10% to 20% that are really achieving. I do not know what the cause, genetic, cultural, hate filled, or whatever.
I have made my choices and have held the same job and worked real hard at it to support myself and me family.
I do not have to pay to keep someone alive because that person did not feel like working, studying or other things that are related to keeping alive.
Carribean blacks outperform blacks from America with similar educational backgrounds. They also outperform whites with similar backgrounds.
Do you think it is because they do not spend all their spare time hating whitey and or is it because they have a real strong work ethic and value learning?
" fair-skinned gigolo types like Vicente run the show?"
That's because what you think of when you think of Mexicans are really Mexican Indians or their descendants. The ruling class is Spaniard, a European light-skinned people.
LMFAO
As with everything, absolutes are difficult. From societies point of view, all varieties of welfare are essentially gambling.
The bet is threefold: that there are lots of people who just had a bit of bad luck, and with a little sustenance, they will get back on their feet in short order. This is a good bet, as this does happen to a lot of people; and with a little help they are never on welfare again.
The second, which is "welfare reform", is that welfare has to be designed to encourage this in those who were never successful, who were raised in conditions of failure which they can only elevate themselves from over time, incrementally, and with incentives to get off welfare. This does seem to get a lot of people off welfare, one way or another, so is also not a bad bet.
The third is the recognition that there are a lot of people who are permanently wards of the state, mostly because of disability. Many can do a little, low value work, but not enough to survive, and a lot are just physical or psychological wash-outs. Society respects that if you are a cripple without a family, it can spend a little so that you don't just die on the street.
There are a lot of people out there who would rather live in a cave than work for their own support. But most of them end up in prison, as society has no real other place for them. Prison, too, is a form of welfare.
But the days of "welfare mothers" who just make babies and expect everyone else to support them, are by and large over.
The vast majority of individual welfare from the federal government can be broken down into these main groupings:
Native Americans, homeowners, students, farmers, artists, scientists, consumers, small businesses, refugees, aliens, veterans, senior citizens, low-income persons, health and education professionals, builders, contractors, developers, handicapped persons, and the physically afflicted. Examples of direct assistance to these individuals include Section 8 vouchers, Pell Grant scholarships, and disaster relief awards, among many others.
one shade lighterI wonder if there is a little booklet of color swatches we should be consulting. ;')
I believe intelligence and how it is measured is cultural.
What about achievement?
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