Hillary/Giuliani: Serious About Race For President

WCBSTV.COM ^ | 27 JANUARY 2007 | AP

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

(CBS) NEW YORK -- After all the hinting hemming and hawing about whether they are really in the race Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani left no doubt in the minds of voters that they are serious about a presidential run in 2008.

"As a republican and I'm very, very optimistic that we're gonna turn this around and that we're gonna turn it around very, very quickly. Meaning this year, in time for 2008," said Giuliani-R , Former NYC Mayor at an engagement in New Hampshire.

And Senator Clinton confirmed her White House intentions in Iowa with her newly innovated slogan "I'm in it to win it."

"They're both in the race. Hillary has a much bigger organization set up. She's been raising money nationally longer," said political analyst Joseph Mercurio, about the man who was nicknamed America's Mayor after 9/11 and the senator who would be returning to the White House this time in the top job. "He's got a tremendous amount of name recognition nationally. He needs to set up a national organization before he's fully plunged into the race. But, undoubtedly he's running just as well as she is," he said.

So, what happens if it shakes out to be a Hillary versus Rudy battle for the white house in 08?

Mercurio says, "it would obviously good if one or the other of them won for New York City or the state how that plays in the rest of the country whether the New York image is a drag or not is a whole other conversation."

[IslandJeff]

keep his city a sanctuary city for illegal foreign nationals

As opposed to all those other big city mayors...

He also has no regard for the Bill of Rights, the RKBA, the God-given right to protect ourselves, our families and our property.

So that's how he became a Federal Prosecutor and (almost) destroyed the NYC mob. Do you really think he'd even seek the nomination if he was anti-gun? The USA isn't NYC, you know, and I'd venture to guess he knows it as well.

Not to mention his unsolicited support of Justices Alito and Scalia.

[Sunsong]

Nobody is asking you to support Rudy, are they? You are just going from one Rudy thread to another to bash him.

[EternalVigilance]

Not to mention his unsolicited support of Justices Alito and Scalia.

"Unsolicited support"? LOL...you don't think he had any ulterior motives, eh?

Have you looked closely at the kind of appointments he made as mayor? Pretty liberal, to say the least. Kinda like Romney and Schwarzeneggar. With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?

[Sunsong]

Hey, there's always the Constitution Party :-) Ideological purity. Think about it :-)

[BW2221]

Duncan Hunter, but I'll probably vote for the GOP standard bearer (unless the Dems run Zell Miller).

[EternalVigilance]

I see you're still pushing the RINO plan for electoral success - showing the base of your party the door. Brilliant.

[BW2221]

"You are just going from one Rudy thread to another to bash him."

Yes, something to do on a slow Saturday night ... make that Sunday morning.

[Sunsong]

Let me say it again, just so there can be no mistake: If the Republican Party nominates Rudy Giuliani, the pact that has existed since Reagan will have been broken. Same goes for Romney and McCain. The Reagan GOP governing coalition will be finished, and so will the party of Lincoln.

The principles, and those who still hold them in their hearts and minds, will continue, only under some other banner.

Why wait. You've already left the GOP once. Why not move to the Constitution Party - recruit Alan - the street preacher - Keyes to run for President and enjoy?

[BunnySlippers]

Schwarzeneggar. With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?

You could have had Cruz Bustamante. You take what you can get.

[IslandJeff]

LOL...you don't think he had any ulterior motives, eh?

I can't speak for him. He wasn't dictator of NYC - there is, um, a substantial legislative body there.

So, do you think he's lying? You don't think RWR or Ed Meese would have vetted him in the slightest?

[Sunsong]

You won't have to worry about winning in the Constitution Party :-)

It will be all ideological purity. No one will have to budge on any issue. not one. Think about it :-)

[Sunsong]

LOL - what are you going to do if you can't win a majority? :-)

As I say, maybe it's not about you?

[Sunsong]

No really - are you aware that Rudy Giuliani is not a social conservative? And yet, he is popular within the GOP?

What can a *purist* do? :-)

Leave the party again?

[Sunsong]

How do you feel you are doing so far in preventing abortion in America?

[Sunsong]

I'm not worried. Vote for whoever you want to. No one is asking you to support Rudy. I take it you on this thread because you want to trash the man? Is that correct?

[Sunsong]

So you're supporting Duncan Hunter - which is good. But you're on a Rudy thread because....?

I'm pretty much an anyone but Hillary voter. Even McCain - who I don't like at all - is better than Hillary, imo.

[IslandJeff]

Abortion isn't going anywhere. Even if R v W (possibly the worst SCOTUS decision ever written) were overturned, plenty of states already have laws on the books, mostly permitting the process under verifiable contingencies. IOW, states, for the most part, have decided well in advance of the Emanating Penumbral right to kill unborn children, through the political/legislative process. For those (myself included) who find the practice barbaric, it's up to US to influence our states. The President is a complete non-starter, but that is probably lost upon some.

[Sunsong]

Honestly EV, you have left the GOP once. Wouldn't you really prefer a party with no ideological dissent? Isn't that what you are truly looking for?

[upsdriver]

Pretty darn good! I haven't caused any!!

[stockstrader]

Just posting the facts, no trash,,,,just the facts. If you Rudy apologists consider that trash---well,,,,,you can call it whatever you like,,,,just like you are trying to redefine the term 'conservative'. Have a nice day.