Posted on 01/27/2007 8:42:25 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
(CBS) NEW YORK -- After all the hinting hemming and hawing about whether they are really in the race Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani left no doubt in the minds of voters that they are serious about a presidential run in 2008.
"As a republican and I'm very, very optimistic that we're gonna turn this around and that we're gonna turn it around very, very quickly. Meaning this year, in time for 2008," said Giuliani-R , Former NYC Mayor at an engagement in New Hampshire.
And Senator Clinton confirmed her White House intentions in Iowa with her newly innovated slogan "I'm in it to win it."
"They're both in the race. Hillary has a much bigger organization set up. She's been raising money nationally longer," said political analyst Joseph Mercurio, about the man who was nicknamed America's Mayor after 9/11 and the senator who would be returning to the White House this time in the top job. "He's got a tremendous amount of name recognition nationally. He needs to set up a national organization before he's fully plunged into the race. But, undoubtedly he's running just as well as she is," he said.
So, what happens if it shakes out to be a Hillary versus Rudy battle for the white house in 08?
Mercurio says, "it would obviously good if one or the other of them won for New York City or the state how that plays in the rest of the country whether the New York image is a drag or not is a whole other conversation."
Maybe its' not about you?
Your admirable concern for the external threats this country faces should, in my opinion, be matched by an equally passionate concern for the even more serious threats we face to the survival of our free republic, and the sacred tenets that underlie it, from within.
"Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step over the ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! -- All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a Thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." - Abraham Lincoln
It is just incredible that the Rudy sycophants are willing to PERMANENTLY MOVE THE PARTY EVEN FURTHER TO THE LEFT to elect a liberal lawyer from NY. This country just does not need TWO parties on the left side of the political spectrum.
As the Gipper so eloquently stated,
"So, it was our Republican Party that gave me a political home. When I signed up for duty, I didn't have to check my principles at the door. And I soon found out that the desire for victory did not overcome our devotion to ideals".
--Ronald Reagan Remarks at the Republican National Convention in New Orleans, August 15, 1988.
No thanks, Rudy.
Hey Spiff, how do you feel you are doing so far in preventing abortion?
Great quote. Thank you.
Then don't vote for him. It's as simple as that.
I don't know if you know this - but Rudy is NOT a social conservative.
Very. His teachings on the U.S. Constitution, the proper role of government, and the fight for freedom are the roots of my conservatism.
Who are you supporting?
Wow - such nastiness! How do you feel you are doing, btw, in preventing abortion? How are things going in that area?
Give me a break. He thumbed his nose at the law and at Congress to keep his city a sanctuary city for illegal foreign nationals who had invaded our sovereign territory.
He also has no regard for the Bill of Rights, the RKBA, the God-given right to protect ourselves, our families and our property.
And then we could talk about the rights of the innocent unborn...
You had a fine teacher.
You're boring.
Yes they are. And their insanity is everywhere lately.
Is Abortion An Election Issue?
by Rev. Dr. James I. Lamb, LFL Executive Director
“I could never vote for anyone who favors the destruction of innocent life in the womb,” Sam stated bluntly. Fred replied, “I’m opposed to abortion as much as you are, Sam, but there are other issues you know.”
Sincere and well meaning Christians who oppose abortion too often speak of it as if it were on a par with tax cuts, Medicare, or Social Security. There are many “Freds” out there. Maybe you know a “Fred.” Maybe you are a “Fred”! You want to be fair-minded, and you do not want to be labeled a “one issue” voter.
If you really think about it, abortion is more than an “election issue.”
God speaks to some of the political issues of our day but in a way that gives the Christian plenty of “wiggle” room. For example, God speaks about taxes. He tells us to give to “Caesar” what is his. However, He does not talk about tax structures or the IRS. Therefore, Christians may debate about how much they think “Caesar” should be taking or about how he should be taking it.
God speaks about salvation but not about how to save the Social Security system. Therefore, Christians may debate about the pros and cons of privatization.
God speaks about caring for the elderly but not about Medicare. Therefore, Christians may debate about the best way to help the elderly pay for prescriptions.
God speaks differently, however, about destroying innocent human life, and there is no “wiggle” room. He says: “You shall not murder.”
We must not forget what abortion is. All the rhetoric surrounding abortion has deceptively blinded us to the truth. We hear it described as a “right,” a “choice,” or a “medical procedure.” It becomes too easy – even for the Christian – to see abortion as just another one of those “election issues.”
Think about it! What is a candidate who supports abortion rights really supporting? Abortion is not on a par with a woman’s right to equal employment and equal pay.
Let’s be honest.
The candidate who supports abortion rights supports a woman’s right to have her innocent child murdered. Abortion is not just an “election issue.” Abortion is a grave sin. Abortion assaults God’s Word of truth about the sanctity of human life and, therefore, assaults the Word Himself Who became flesh that we might have life. Abortion is a sin against God Who is the Author and Redeemer of life. Abortion is not an “election issue.” Because abortion destroys human life, it is a spiritual issue.
Not only does abortion kill a child, it forever wounds a woman. Although she may at first feel a sense of relief that her “problem” has been solved, eventually the reality of this unnatural choice sinks in. When it does, the guilt and shame can be devastating. This awful reality can bring the same devastation to fathers, grandparents, and siblings. Abortion is not an “election issue.” Because abortion can destroy relationships within families as well as between God and an individual, it is a spiritual issue.
Therefore . . .
. . . a Christian cannot debate the pros and cons of abortion any more than he can debate the pros and cons of rape or stealing or adultery. Abortion cannot be a “right” for, in God’s sight, it is a fundamental wrong.
It is such a fundamental wrong that, when it comes to voting, a candidate’s stance on the issues is irrelevant if he or she favors abortion. A vote is not a passive act. The voter participates in promoting the agenda of the candidate in an intentional action. A candidate who favors abortion should be disqualified from receiving a Christian’s vote.
Regardless of what our government deems legal, when it comes to abortion, “We must obey God rather than man.” Those who have been called in grace and adopted as God’s children through the merits of Jesus Christ should not sanction the destruction of preborn children.
A vote for a pro-abortion candidate implicates the voter in the destruction of children created by God and for whom Jesus died.
Christians must certainly use caution when it comes to political involvement. A congregation has no business preaching about tax credits or campaign finance reform and advising its members where they should stand on these kinds of issues.
However, the Body of Christ is compelled to defend the cause of the weak and needy (Psalm 83:3-4). The Church is compelled to “speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves” (Proverbs 31:8 NIV) and to expose the “fruitless deeds of darkness” (Ephesians 5:11 NIV). When a candidate for a government office promotes the sin of abortion, God’s people must take action to oppose this sin and defend those affected by it.
The Church is compelled not just to expose the deeds of darkness but also to be a light to those trapped by the deeds of darkness. The Church’s Gospel message of forgiveness is the only source of true hope and healing needed by those struggling with an abortion decision.
Abortion is an atrocity that takes the lives of over 3,000 children every day. Abortion is an atrocity that wounds women and destroys relationships. To be in favor of such an atrocity is symptomatic of a certain moral view of life that has broader implications as well. What kind of morality do we want in our leaders who will be making decisions about human embryo research, genetic manipulation, cloning, assisted suicide, and euthanasia? The redeemed people of God are compelled to take action in favor of a morality that reflects God’s love for life as exemplified on the cross of His Son, Jesus Christ.
There is a little “Fred” in all of us. No one wants to be a “one issue” voter. But abortion is not an “election issue.”
Abortion is a spiritual issue.
Abortion is a sin.
The Christian should not vote for the sin of abortion.
The Christian should vote for life and be a messenger of life.
I have always believed that anybody who, by experience, truly knows the left will always vote for the person on the right. Whittaker Chambers is said to have told Buckley that in response to Buckley's carping about the flaws of the Republican candidate.
Anybody in a war protects their turf as best they can. I will not give Clinton, Obama, Edwards or whomever the Democrats nominee is, assistance by supporting an unelectable candidate. And I will not trash the Republicans front runners when they might end up to be the best defense I have available.
Hey, no one is asking you to vote for Rudy, are they?
It wouldn't matter if they did. I would never vote for him, PERIOD. And I can guarantee four others in my family will never vote for him either. But not to worry, because the Rudy apologists keep reminding us that our votes aren't needed anyway.
Especially with the possiblity of Alan - the street preacher - Keyes as the Presidential candidate? :-)
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