[Rb ver. 2.0]

""Yes, it will hurt people," said Steve Gee of All Saints Episcopal Church in Greensboro. "Being a gay man, myself, I see this as part of the ongoing civil rights struggle that started in the ’40s when the churches had to make statements for racial equality. There were people who left churches because they would not drink from the common cup with people of color."

More gay propaganda invoking equality of discrimination blacks suffered.

[Intolerant in NJ]

The resolution, which is expected to go before the full Episcopal Diocese of North Carolina this morning, would also affirm homosexuals as "children of God who have a full and equal claim with all other persons upon the love, acceptance and pastoral concern and care of the Church."...it's certainly strange that the same breed of "progressives" who see no problem with claiming that they "support the troops" but "hate the war" can't seem to get it through their oh-so-sophisticated heads that Christians and Jews can condemn the homosexual lifestyle and still consider homosexuals "...children of God who have a full and equal claim....." and all the rest of it.......

[DWPittelli]

I don't have a dog in this fight, being not Episcopal nor otherwise churched, but it seems to me that the Episcopal Church has a real crisis of identity on its hands.

What I'd like to know is when the Episcopalians will have the clarity and moral fortitude to say that the canonical Bible is wrong.

Naturally, most Christians ignore a lot of the Commandments in the Pentateuch (about homosexuality and other things). That's relatively easy, because it is the oldest part of the Bible, it's unclear who wrote it down and exactly how the words were inspired by God, and it has a lot of archaic stuff essentially everyone Christian believes was either always a mistaken interpretation of God's will, or was fitting to a time and people, but not us now, like ancient understandings about a God who apparently commands genocide, killing witches, not eating pork -- but we have to conclude that St. Paul's epistles (themselves much of the reason that Christians have been released from much of the Jewish 813 Commandments) should be cast out of the Bible.

Because while Paul preached that Gentiles could become Christians without Jewish rituals such as circumcision or keeping kosher, the poor deluded fool was blinded by his "uptight" and homophobic nature to oppose fornication and gay sex for everyone.

So who will cast out Paul, and say he's no longer a Saint? Is the Episcopal Church going to renounce Paul? Or is the Episcopal Church just going to renounce selected teachings of "Saint" Paul, so that they can continue to read 1 Corinthians at weddings gay and straight?

[sionnsar]

Anglican ping -- just passing through really quickly after & before loong days of meetings and saw this...

[ChessExpert]

The civil rights arguments and the comparisons to blacks are bogus. Men having anal sex with men is a choice, not an identity.

[PackerBronco]

... and in a related story, Episcopaleans petition God to apologize to Soddom and Gommorah.

[gidget7]

"This is an evangelism and mission-minded resolution."


Hellooooooo?? Look up the word evangelism, because it sure doesn't mean what you think it does. As far as our resolution, it's a mission alright! A mission to bring down the very church you are supposedly a part of.

[Waco]

Hey, hit em up for $$$$ to help the Catholic Church pay up on lawsuits they lost cause queer priests ATTACKED children. It's only money ya know. Shell out!!

[Alia]

NC *Ping*

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[Alia]

I'm sorry, so sorry
That I was such a fool
I didn't know
Love could be so cruel
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

You tell me mistakes
Are part of being young
But that don't right
The wrong that's been done

[Spoken:]
(I'm sorry) I'm sorry
(So sorry) So sorry
Please accept my apology
But love is blind
And I was to blind to see
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

You tell me mistakes
Are part of being young
But that don't right
The wrong that's been done
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

I'm sorry, so sorry
Please accept my apology
But love was blind
And I was too blind to see
(Sorry)

[Gone_Postal]

I don't know being Christian means following the bible and listening to God
The bible say adultery is wrong but to be gay means to be an adulterer as per the lifestyle. Even if you remain fateful to one they can't be married therefore living in sin. Just one example.

I'm not judging just relating fact

[STONEWALLS]

"We know the winds and the waves — sometimes it’s called 9/11, terrorism, global warming, Darfur, schism, Anglical Communion, Iraq, Afghanistan, genetic engineering, HIV/AIDS."
this is the same liberal tilting at windmills that's destroyed the Presbyterian Church....the moral exhibitionism, the angry piety, the moral vanity; it's all there....the last Presbytery Assembly I went to they spent the whole time arguing over abortion...their best thinking has emptied out the church....Episcopalians are apparently bent on doing the same thing.

[EGPWS]

The resolution, which is expected to go before the full Episcopal Diocese of North Carolina this morning, would also affirm homosexuals as "children of God who have a full and equal claim with all other persons upon the love, acceptance and pastoral concern and care of the Church."

The Episcopal church going to those in need for guidance instead of the Bible.

What a concept...

[longtermmemmory]

victim appology scam

The appology promotes the homosexual agenda by portraying the recreational sex fetishists as "victims."

[Unam Sanctam]

The modern day Episcopal Church should apologize to those with this condition for affirming them in sinful behavior rather than calling them to chastity and holiness.

[TASMANIANRED]

Guess they will apologize to murders next.

[Honorary Serb]

When are "gays" and feminazis going to apologize for messing over the churches during the past 20-30 years or so?

That's the REAL apology that is needed--followed by repentance and an end to gaysbian/feminazi undermining!!!!

[goldstategop]

Liberals apologizing for morality? What's next - liberals apologizing for the existence of God? This PC crap has gone too far.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus