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1 posted on 01/27/2007 3:06:25 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater
I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)

RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.

KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.

GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.

KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.

JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.

KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.

GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.

Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY

Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.


http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp


2 posted on 01/27/2007 3:07:10 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: Senator Goldwater

3 posted on 01/27/2007 3:07:39 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Senator Goldwater

He certainly leads all the Republican candidates in numbers of disgusting vagrants arrested and taken to jail under his orders.

Whether that will appeal to voters in the presidential race, I cannot say.


5 posted on 01/27/2007 3:08:55 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Senator Goldwater
This is at least the third time the pro-Rudy supporters have run this article on FR.

Giuliani supports partial birth abortion. Enough said.
6 posted on 01/27/2007 3:09:55 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Senator Goldwater

It must be election season. We are being told that despite what we see with our own eyes all the liberal Republicans are actually conservative.


7 posted on 01/27/2007 3:10:07 PM PST by trek
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To: Senator Goldwater

Bill Clinton was also supposed to reduce abortions in America while still being prochoice.

I don't buy it. As a mayor in New York, Giuliani didn't assign judges. As POTUS, he may have to. And when he does, I don't see how his record on social issues would lead him to appoint a constructionist.


9 posted on 01/27/2007 3:12:14 PM PST by Nevernow ("No one has the right to choose to do what is wrong." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Obviously you think we're stupid. That's boring. Rude, too.


12 posted on 01/27/2007 3:17:57 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Let all your thinks be thanks." ~ W.H. Auden)
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To: Senator Goldwater

What, Julie Annie didn't have an abortion herself?


13 posted on 01/27/2007 3:18:46 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Senator Goldwater

MMmmmmm... Softsoap.

My mother once washed out my mouth with Softsoap after I said a bad word. I would have preferred the bar soap. The Softsoap was terrible.

APf


15 posted on 01/27/2007 3:20:34 PM PST by APFel (Regnum Nostrum Crescit)
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Doesn't matter. Obama will be president in 2008.


19 posted on 01/27/2007 3:38:36 PM PST by Washi (Support the country you live in, or go live in the country you support.)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Abortion Fits GOP Philosophy, Says Giuliani


By Jeff McKay
CNS Correspondent
April 09, 2001

New York, N.Y. (CNSNews.com) - While the national Republican platform is decidedly pro-life and has been for the past two decades, the GOP mayor of the nation's largest city believes his party's philosophical underpinnings are more in tune with the pro-abortion point of view.

New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said favoring the availability of abortion is "more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party."

Giuliani made his eyebrow-raising remarks at an awards luncheon April 6 sponsored by the National Abortion Rights Action League in New York City, a leading abortion group.

[...Snip...]

Kelli Conlin, the executive director of the New York chapter of NARAL, applauded Giuliani's views. She called the mayor "a great advocate for us," and said it was "unfortunate the leadership of the GOP has moved into a direction where they want to implant government control on the lives of women and on reproductive freedom."

Although some of the state's top Republicans favor the availability of abortion - both Giuliani and Gov. George Pataki are supporters of abortion rights - their views on the issue are not shared by all in the New York GOP.

"Rudy Giuliani is not the poster child for the Republican Party. His values are completely out-of-step with the views of the GOP," said Lori Hougen, spokesperson for the New York chapter of the National Right to Life.


I'm told of how impressed some people are with Rudy's "resolve" after he saw nearly 3,000 people die in the attack on the WTC on 9/11. Yet, during his term in office as Mayor of NYC nearly 1,000,000 unborn children were slaughtered in that city alone. And the only resolve Rudy shows in the face of such a bloody holocaust is to support the continuance of it. He equates the butchery of pre-birth children with "freedom" and "choice." He even celebrates it with its strongest proponents - groups like NARAL - bragging of his strong disagreement with the vast majority of the Republican on trying to put an end to the slaughter that has killed over 40,000,000 babies since the Roe v. Wade legal atrocity.

It is said that Rudy is ready to take on the whole world in response to the deaths of 3,000 Americans in the WTC attack but he not only won't even lift a finger in response to the deaths of 40,000,000 American children - he wants the slaughter to continue unabated. He has even stated that he would willingly pay to have his own grandchild butchered by an abortionist if his daughter couldn't pay for it herself. And he even thinks that your tax money should be used to pay for the unborn children of poor women to be dismembered and sucked into a sink.

Yet, there is a massive propaganda effort occuring to sugar coat Giuliani's extreme liberal views, statements, and policies and Mayor of New York City. But it goes beyond softening his hardcore liberal views. The big lie is being told and told often that Giuliani is a conservative. Which he is NOT, by any sane definition of the word. That propaganda effort is seen in major magazines, newspapers, and right here on Free Republic.

Let there be no confusion. Giuliani is a liberal - one of the most liberal people in the Republican Party - and the MOST LIBERAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ever. Would it be easier to ignore his liberal, anti-Republican platform views and support the current frontrunner in the Republican Primary? For some. But what is the RIGHT thing to do? Do you principles mean anything to you? Do the traditional principles of the Republican Party mean anything to you? We're well over a year outside of election day. Any one of the major candidates could be made into the GOP nominee. They just need YOUR support in the form of donations and work. Are we so fearful of a tough election fight with Hillary that we'll put up a candidate whose liberal views do not represent the views of the vast majority of the Republican Party? Do we surrender our conservative values for electoral expedience? And if Rudy is our nominee and he does win the election, what does it profit the Republican Party if we win but we lose our soul?

Maybe some people are right and the time isn't right for a hardcore conservative candidate. Fine. Maybe we could go with a moderate more in the mold of our current President. I'm very unhappy with a number of things that President Bush has done, but I would far prefer 4 to 8 more years of that than 4 to 8 years of a liberal like Giuliani. Pick a conservative candidate, or a more moderate candidate if you must. But supporting a liberal like Giuliani is an unconscionable choice for any self-respecting conservative Republican.

22 posted on 01/27/2007 4:08:53 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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Nationwide, there was a decline in abortions while Giuliani was in office. However, the pro-abortion policies of the mayor reduced the decline of abortions in NYC to HALF of the decline seen in the rest of the country. (If he can take credit for a decline in abortions in NYC, then he would have to similarly take the blame for declining at only half the rate of the rest of the country.) The bottom line is that according to the New York Department of Health's Vital Records, during Giuliani's term as mayor he oversaw nearly 1,000,000 deaths of unborn children by abortion.


23 posted on 01/27/2007 4:12:42 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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“I don’t like abortion,” Giuliani said last November. “I don’t think abortion is a good thing. I think we ought to find some alternative to abortion, and that there ought to be as few as possible.”

This is almost PRECISELY what Hillary Clinton has said about abortion. I think I will look up the quote and compare. Not surprising since Giuliani and Clinton do not differ at all on the issue of abortion.

Giuliani is quite the extremist, in fact. He opposes banning partial birth abortion which is about the most barbaric form of murder imaginable. Even Tommy Daschle had enough moral fiber and humanity to vote for the ban.

25 posted on 01/27/2007 4:15:24 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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Screw abortions, Rudy! Cut to the chase! We still have not discussed the 2nd amendment, and I know you wish to hell you didn't have to, but no way will you pull off a P.T. Barnum flimflam on me!
You might just win without me, good luck!
Until you get right with the Constitution, I am set to work my butt off,against you!


26 posted on 01/27/2007 4:34:00 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: Senator Goldwater
OK.

What is his record on gun control?
37 posted on 01/27/2007 5:48:40 PM PST by do the dhue (DEM ARE RATS!!!!!)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Bad enough.


39 posted on 01/27/2007 5:56:30 PM PST by Ode To Ted Kennedys Liver (Senate Republicans' Motto: Quit while you're ahead.|| Democrats' Motto: Going nowhere fast!)
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Perhaps I am paranoid but it seems to me that the portions of the War on Terror may be fought on the streets of this country. If this proves to be the case, the citizens are going to have to be armed and armed well in advance. We don't need a president who first disarms the populace.

I know his views and I could never vote for Giuliani, under any circumstance.

41 posted on 01/27/2007 7:56:22 PM PST by OldPossum
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