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Airbus moving toward solid composite fuselage on A350 XWB
Air Transport World Online ^ | 26 January 2007 | Geoffrey Thomas

Posted on 01/27/2007 7:02:36 AM PST by lowbuck

Airbus appears to be moving toward adopting a solid composite barrel for its A350 XWB after receiving mixed feedback on its plan to use composite panels on an aluminum frame.

According to industry analysts, trade studies are underway in Toulouse for the change. Last fall ATWOnline revealed that Airbus was swapping to a composite structure (ATWOnline, Oct. 25, 2006) and that the aircraft's EIS would slip to 2014.

The latest mooted change would not surprise Emirates President Tim Clark, who told this website yesterday that he feels the future lies in a 787-style structure. "That is the way [the industry] is going to go," he said.

Clark said the A350 XWB remains a bit of a mystery, adding that he doesn't want to discuss the aircraft with Airbus until it freezes the design. The 2014 timeline is a concern, although he said he does not want the manufacturer to rush the design, and he wants to see two engine-makers commit to the program, which "presents a problem for GE for the A350-1000." He added, "That said, we will still look at the A350 and what guarantees on performance and delivery Airbus are offering."

Like others, Clark has reservations about Airbus's ability to tackle both the 787-8 and the 777-300ER with one aircraft family. "If they succeed, Eureka. If not, well, it's a gamble."

Emirates would like to be in detailed discussions on the A350-1000 and the 787-10 by mid-year for an order for 60-100 aircraft. The order will not be split. On the 787-10 Clark would like to see more range, which Boeing is working to deliver.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: a350xwb; aerospace; airbus; boeing; eads
Oh the saga of the A350XLD. . . is that "extra late delivery" or "extra late design (freeze). The only thing keeping Aribus in the game is the production at Boeing for the 787 is sold out!
1 posted on 01/27/2007 7:02:38 AM PST by lowbuck
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To: lowbuck

Here's a stupid question, how do the aircraft manufacturors get the lightening strikes to dissapate from these carbon/composite fuselage structures?

When a carbon fiber mast is struck, usaully there are disaterous consequences. What happens on aircraft? Just wondering.


2 posted on 01/27/2007 7:45:35 AM PST by brooklin
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To: Paleo Conservative

ping


3 posted on 01/27/2007 7:46:21 AM PST by brooklin
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To: brooklin
Check this out: Thorstrand

It says it is used on the 757, Citation 3, and F-16 among others.

4 posted on 01/27/2007 8:15:03 AM PST by AntiKev ("No damage. The world's still turning isn't it?" - Stereo Goes Stellar - Blow Me A Holloway)
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To: lowbuck
adopting a solid composite barrel

If the fuselage is solid, I guess the passengers will ride on the outside of the plane.

5 posted on 01/27/2007 9:24:07 AM PST by PAR35
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To: brooklin

It's a good question indeed.

Unlike with metall hull planes the charges will not flow around the aircrafts hull but will find the metal parts (turbines etc.) and flow around them.

Since the aircraft is not on ground potential the energy lost on the aircraft will be rather small - normaly only some paint will be missing.

I hope :)


6 posted on 01/29/2007 4:31:18 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: lowbuck

And the fact that the 787 doesn't exist yet.


7 posted on 02/09/2007 1:40:54 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge

As I say, time will tell. Meanwhile this http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1781943/posts


8 posted on 02/09/2007 7:15:59 AM PST by lowbuck (The Blue Card (US Passport). . . Don't leave home without it!)
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