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To: groanup
"If your post is trying to show that the South seceded because of slavery you have shown it."

Yes. Facts in documents are good for evidence.

"There were many other reasons as well. Unfortunately, you have neglected to show in what capacity the North went to war. It certainly wasn't to eliminate slavery."

I didn't "neglect" to show that our United States went to war as a result of an attack by the rebels on a United States Fort. I was only intending to show as to why Confederate states wanted to secede. The Confederates had decided to take U.S. properties (including military properties) in their efforts to secede from the Union. They started the War by firing on United States forces at Fort Sumter. They seceded (as I showed with the evidence), because they wanted to continue owning slaves. Their other reasons for seceding were for the purpose of keeping slaves (as shown in their declarations of secession).

"So don't give me and anyone else on this thread any sort of superior sniff."

...perceived by some as superior to what--superior to the efforts of a few to re-instigate old divisions? We are now at war with Islamo-fascist forces hostile to our nation, and most people in what were once "Southern" states (now eastern states) have no desire to secede from our USA, to reinstitute slavery, or to relive the ugliest days of our ancestors' past.

It turned out during the Civil War that "cotton" was not "king" after all. The rebels did not succeed in coaxing Britain or France into war against our United States. Rhetoric is good when supported by evidence. But without evidence, rhetoric isn't king, either (as shown, for example, by the failures of rebel propagandists Henry Hotze and Edwin De Leon to secure physical European support against our United States).
98 posted on 01/27/2007 4:28:22 AM PST by familyop ("G-d is on our side because he hates the Yanks." --St. Tuco, in the "Good, the Bad, and the Ugly")
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To: familyop
Yea, watch it with that "any sort of superior sniff" see, otherwise the few backward peddlers of a twice defeated lost cause might actually learn something, maybe ... :)
101 posted on 01/27/2007 7:05:51 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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