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Rudy opposes gay nups ban (3/8/2004)
New York Daily News ^ | 3/8/2004 | JAMES GORDON MEEK

Posted on 01/26/2007 12:29:42 PM PST by Ol' Sparky

WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani, who lived with a gay Manhattan couple when he moved out of Gracie Mansion during his nasty divorce.

Giuliani took his gay rights stance just as speculation hits a fever pitch that he's in line to replace Cheney on Bush's ticket.

Cheney and New York Sen. Hillary Clinton fueled the vice presidential talk at Saturday night's Gridiron Dinner in Washington.

To a mock question from the audience asking Cheney to step aside for someone with "new energy and vitality," the veep turned to Giuliani and zinged: "You need to do a better job of disguising your handwriting."

Asked yesterday whether he would run with Bush if Cheney stepped aside, the mayor-turned-businessman mimicked Marlon Brando in "The Godfather": "An offer I couldn't refuse, right?" But he didn't say no.

Giuliani conceded he's "out of sync" with his party's conservative base, but likened himself to other moderate GOP stars like Gov. Pataki and Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

And while he was cagey on the veep talk, the former mayor said he will run for elected office again, but didn't say which one.

Giuliani is considered a leading GOP hopeful in the 2008 presidential race, though he may decide to challenge Clinton in her 2006 Senate reelection bid.

But for now, Giuliani has been making the rounds burnishing the President's terror-fighting credentials and joining in Republican attempts to portray Kerry as a would-be waffler-in-chief.

He once more defended Bush's use of footage of a flag-draped coffin coming out of Ground Zero in controversial new political ads.

"To leave [Sept. 11] out of a political campaign when you're running for reelection cuts out half your leadership," he said. "I mean, it would make no sense."

But Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who ran against Bush in 2000, disagreed.

"I might not have used the ad of the coffin coming out, or the body coming out of the ruins with a flag on it," he told ABC's "This Week."

Originally published on March 8, 2004


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buthecanwin; giulianirino; homosexualagenda
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To: trumandogz

Tell them he has WAY better legs than the lady he ran against and won, and he likes for us all to remember that. On the other hand, if Mrs. Clinton won, we wouldn't have to discuss dresses at all, would we. Might be a little talk about "stand-alone pantsuits", though.


41 posted on 01/26/2007 12:50:24 PM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: trumandogz

I realize that it is fine distinction that oddly eludes many around here ... but Rudy is against abortion.

He thinks abortion shouldn't happen. But he does not support making it illegal.

For those of you who weren't around. Abortion was rampant before abortion on demand became legal. And any change just throws it to the states where most will remain legal.


42 posted on 01/26/2007 12:50:38 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Despite the fact that this article is ancient history and probably not true, my initial response is "so what?"

Rudy excites the Republican leadership because he brings in potential voters that otherwise would go for the dim.

If I'm in the booth and I have the choice between Rudy and The Beast, I can pull the Rudy lever.

43 posted on 01/26/2007 12:51:31 PM PST by evad
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To: Ol' Sparky

He's got a point, after all, a man should be all that he can be and if that includes being a wife, so be it.


44 posted on 01/26/2007 12:51:37 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: areafiftyone
Reagan recanted on abortion, however, and Rudy has reasserted his views.

See the memo that was leaked.

Also, watch MSNBC from yesterday where he again asserted his Pro-Choice views. HE's not trying to convert, like Mitt Romney (The GOP's John Kerry).
45 posted on 01/26/2007 12:51:51 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: babaloo

I LIKE that photo. It's a fun photo - and he DOES look better in a dress than Hillary. That's just a fact.


46 posted on 01/26/2007 12:51:55 PM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: Spiff

Platform planks are for wussies, yaknow...

Just Win, Baby!


47 posted on 01/26/2007 12:52:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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To: areafiftyone
"He sure changed his tune while running for president didn't he?"

That is old news! That happened in 1980!! Why are you posting this???

(Do you see what that looks like now?)

48 posted on 01/26/2007 12:52:21 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: areafiftyone
The guys who do this consistently on every Rudy thread are nothing but desperate people that are afraid of Rudy and his high poll rating. Smell the fear!

I disagree. A candidates history is important.

49 posted on 01/26/2007 12:52:33 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Hmm...Sure a lot of folks posting old anti-Giuliani articles lately. Interesting ...


50 posted on 01/26/2007 12:52:39 PM PST by JennysCool (Blink 182 isn't just a band, it's Nancy Pelosi's per-minute average.)
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To: BunnySlippers
Abortion was rampant before abortion on demand became legal.

Do you have a source for this claim, other than some Mother Jones or Nation article? I mean, are you saying that Roe v. Wade has actually caused a decrease in abortions? Really??

51 posted on 01/26/2007 12:53:15 PM PST by shempy (EABOF)
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To: Spiff
(((((Conservative Ping)))))

(((((((RABID AS A LEFTIST ON "DU" CONSERVATIVE PING)))))

There, that's better!

52 posted on 01/26/2007 12:53:21 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

What lots of these people do not understand is the a Republican President represents what policies are Right of Center on the American political spectrum.

If Rudy were to be elected, gun grabbing, abortion on demand and pro gay marriage would all be considered to be on the right forcing the political center further left. Over night the ideas of RWR would be as archaic as the views of Calvin Coolidge.


53 posted on 01/26/2007 12:53:49 PM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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To: BunnySlippers
"...but Rudy is against abortion. He thinks abortion shouldn't happen. But he does not support making it illegal."

That must be why Rudy told Phil Donahue that he would pay for his own daughter to have an abortion?

54 posted on 01/26/2007 12:54:51 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: trumandogz
How am I going to explain to my children why President Giuliani wears a dress?

That should be very easy for you. Have your children ever worn a costume for Halloween? I think that your children would understand this way more than you seem to understand.

55 posted on 01/26/2007 12:55:36 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: TitansAFC

I think that, if Rudy runs, he'll win several primaries. He would be the least conservative candidate. The conservative vote will split, helping him win some states with 30%-40%. I hope that doesn't happen. I think that he's too liberal and that he doesn't have enough political experience.


56 posted on 01/26/2007 12:55:39 PM PST by PhilCollins
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To: evad
If I'm in the booth and I have the choice between Rudy and The Beast, I can pull the Rudy lever.

But you're not in the booth right now. We're not even near the General Election yet. This is Primary Election time and we're trying to ensure that the MOST LIBERAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EVER does not make it to the nomination. All we're asking conservatives to do is to pick a real Republican, preferably a conservative, and do your part to help him out. And to spread the word about Rudy's liberal history and views that make him an absolutely unacceptable candidate for the Republican nomination.

57 posted on 01/26/2007 12:55:55 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Ol' Sparky

Lets see now

Pro-abortion
Anti-gun
Pro Homosexual marriage.

In baseball thats three strikes.

Rudy isnt looking so good.


58 posted on 01/26/2007 12:55:55 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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To: TommyDale

I'm sure it is. He supports the woman's right to chose ... saying it is up to the woman.


59 posted on 01/26/2007 12:56:13 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: TommyDale

I'd pay to stop the Donahue's from breeding too.


60 posted on 01/26/2007 12:56:33 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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